i googled horse growth hormone

Danzig · #1 02-23-2009, 02:50 PM

and look what i found!

how this all began....i came home for lunch, and tony put on colin cowherd from this morning. one of the topics of convo was HGH-he was talking to hof'er dennis eckersly-who said no doubt hgh is still used. i turned to tony and asked 'what, there's no test?' he said there isn't. yet. so i started pondering. which lead to me wondering if there is horse growth hormone-there has to be, right? so i googled...one article i saw said some aussie cyclist got caught with horse GH in syringes in his hotel room. and then i clicked on this link:

http://racehorsedrugsmedicine.com/pr...uine-drugs.php

so, is there testing for HGH(horses?) what about the info they have on that site?

VOL JACK · #2 02-23-2009, 02:54 PM

After the way Colin Cowherd talked about the sport of Horse Racing on his show, He can eat Horse$h!+ and go off and die for all I care.

Danzig · #3 02-23-2009, 02:58 PM

ok...i was trying to start dialogue about the site i put up, not colin cowherd....the company that runs that site is located in the republic of seychelles.

smuthg · #4 02-23-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

After the way Colin Cowherd talked about the sport of Horse Racing on his show, He can eat Horse$h!+ and go off and die for all I care.

agreed, fu*k Colin Cowherd...

but on the website, that is very interesting... wow

Danzig · #5 02-23-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg

agreed, fu*k Colin Cowherd...

but on the website, that is very interesting... wow

that's what i was thinking-wow. it was in the top five results from my search-aren't those based on # of hits? the most popular will come up first?

Cannon Shell · #6 02-23-2009, 06:45 PM

I thought the really interesting thing is that none of the pictures were of US horses and they stressed that they ship throughout the world. But arent all the other countries drug free? LOL.

Danzig · #7 02-23-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I thought the really interesting thing is that none of the pictures were of US horses and they stressed that they ship throughout the world. But arent all the other countries drug free? LOL.

i only read the main page, didn't look at the rest of the site...was hoping you'd look at it. but that is kind of funny, isn't it?
anyway, are folks using horse growth hormone? would it help horses the way they think hgh has helped folks like bonds?

Cannon Shell · #8 02-23-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i only read the main page, didn't look at the rest of the site...was hoping you'd look at it. but that is kind of funny, isn't it?
anyway, are folks using horse growth hormone? would it help horses the way they think hgh has helped folks like bonds?

No one needed to use anything like that until they banned anabolics. i'm sure that some are trying though it may not have even work on equines very well. i honestly dont know.

Now the sales guys may know....

#9 02-23-2009, 08:32 PM

I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?

Bobby Fischer · #10 02-23-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?

seems like one of their products is a sort of precurser to GH
a chemical with the acronym OAK

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Originally Posted by site

It contains Ornithine alphaketoglutarate (OAK), L-Arginine, Glycine and aspartates. This drug kind of wraps up everything in pre racing a horse. OAK stimulates Growth Hormone and Insulin release, for a potent tissue building effect. Trials have demonstrated that OAK effectively reduces muscle loss after surgery and trauma, and increases the synthesis of muscle protein. OAK also acts as an ammonia scavenger within the body, and provides the body with glutamine (the most abundant free amino acid in muscle tissue). Arginine stimulates the release of growth hormone, and is a potent stimulus to Insulin release. Arginine is the end product of OAK breakdown in the body, so OAK adds to the arginine pool available for growth hormone release.

the site might not be the 1st place a world class cheating trainer wants to look, for a number of reasons including getting the "good stuff" , but is still alarming

Danzig · #11 02-23-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

I need some help here bout that site.

I found nothing about Horse Growth Hormone.
It they have actually produced it how?

i don't know what all they're talking about-it's just a site that came up when i did the search....
but another result was about a cyclist who was found with horse growth hormone-he had to have gotten it somewhere. it's obviously out there. not sure how prevalent it is.

#12 02-23-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know what all they're talking about-it's just a site that came up when i did the search....
but another result was about a cyclist who was found with horse growth hormone-he had to have gotten it somewhere. it's obviously out there. not sure how prevalent it is.

Just asking basically because Human Growth Hormone was genetically engineered for pituitary dwarfs to help with the growth of long bones during later childhood/puberty. It was not easy to manufacture but now it is easier.
If someone has found the Horse Growth Hormone gene and has produced the stuff... that would be interesting to know.
It probably is not a lot diff. from Human Growth hormone. But the cyclist to put that into his body... thats is just flat out dumb. He could have had a very bad reaction to it if it really is produced for or in a horse.

Anyways I read fischer and he cleared it up. The chemical in question supposedly helps with the release of Horse growth Hormone. That site looks bogus to me. Probably sell you saline labeled super horse serum.

Riot · #13 02-23-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

ok...i was trying to start dialogue about the site i put up, not colin cowherd....the company that runs that site is located in the republic of seychelles.

And has a minor chemistry student's understanding of pharmacology

Ah, well, cheaters are not cheaters because they are smart, and good at what they do.

Yeah, "OAK" ... someone ought to point out that insulin release isn't very desirable in an athlete. Of course, if a trainer wants to pay tons of money for something that sounds impressive, but is essentially amino acids (they could give in feed), that's their business

#14 02-23-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Why the switch to prose?

Its just sentence length across the page.
I have trouble reading all the way across.
My writing is so pitiful it really does not matter.
I probably just started typing faster and it
got away from me.

I will try to obey my boundaries and limitations.

Danzig · #15 02-23-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

And has a minor chemistry student's understanding of pharmacology

Ah, well, cheaters are not cheaters because they are smart, and good at what they do.

Yeah, "OAK" ... someone ought to point out that insulin release isn't very desirable in an athlete. Of course, if a trainer wants to pay tons of money for something that sounds impressive, but is essentially amino acids (they could give in feed), that's their business

actually, i haven't a clue about chemistry-maybe that was what you meant!

it just threw me when i started reading that one page, that's why i put it up-to find out what the hell they were talking about...

Round Pen · #16 02-24-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one needed to use anything like that until they banned anabolics. i'm sure that some are trying though it may not have even work on equines very well. i honestly dont know.

Now the sales guys may know....

Man isn't that the truth

Round Pen · #17 02-24-2009, 12:11 AM

I went and read the article from top to Bottom and if I had to pre race one and follow those guidelines I think I would get out of racing and get a job at "Chucky Cheeses" making pizza.

Cannon Shell · #18 02-24-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

I went and read the article from top to Bottom and if I had to pre race one and follow those guidelines I think I would get out of racing and get a job at "Chucky Cheeses" making pizza.

You can get a little crosseyed reading that thing. A lot of those secret methods arent really a secret and dont really work that well. Hell most of those preraces are available over the counter.

Antitrust32 · #19 02-24-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Just asking basically because Human Growth Hormone was genetically engineered for pituitary dwarfs to help with the growth of long bones during later childhood/puberty. It was not easy to manufacture but now it is easier.
If someone has found the Horse Growth Hormone gene and has produced the stuff... that would be interesting to know.
It probably is not a lot diff. from Human Growth hormone. But the cyclist to put that into his body... thats is just flat out dumb. He could have had a very bad reaction to it if it really is produced for or in a horse.

Anyways I read fischer and he cleared it up. The chemical in question supposedly helps with the release of Horse growth Hormone. That site looks bogus to me. Probably sell you saline labeled super horse serum.

the site is totally bogus. They dont even have real products that you can buy. But you can buy something called Testerr for $12,225. Sounds like a great deal.

Echo Farm · #20 02-24-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

ok...i was trying to start dialogue about the site i put up, not colin cowherd....the company that runs that site is located in the republic of seychelles.

Interesting:

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We control the Site from our offices within the Republic of Seychelles. We make no representation that the Content in the Site is appropriate or available for use in other locations, and access to them from territories where their content is illegal is prohibited. Those who choose to access the Site from other locations do so on their own initiative and are responsible for compliance with applicable local laws. Any claim relating to the Site, the services provided through the Site or the Content shall be governed by the internal laws of the Republic of Seychelles.

We regret we cannot guarantee customs clearance in any country. Please check your latest customs regulations before placing an order. By ordering you will take sole responsibility regarding what drugs you can import to your country.

the site is registered to someone in Sweden using the same address as "Lap Outfitters"
Registrant:
Karlberg, Lola (519120)
Middagsgatan 36
Linkoping, --, 58953
SE
Domain name: racehorsedrugsmedicine.com

The listing below shows a bogus Michigan address similar to
the Swedish address with a non-existant zip code
Phone number is listed to a real estate guy in Michigan

The Racehorse Pharmacy
Middagsgatan 36, Linkoping, MI 58953
(517) 431-2041
Email Us
racehorsedrugsmedicine.com
http://www.stable.com/index.cfm?fuse...ary%20Supplies

sounds like a place I'd send my money to.........................

Interesting site, though