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Old 03-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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When Patena tanked, it was time for Plan B.
Unrelated. They were in discussion with Lanzman before the Louisiana Derby.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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Being left handed I realize that I think differently than many but....
Other than it being IEAH that is the interested buyer...what is the big deal...why the rolling of the eyes...
The current owner wants to lock in a profit... is that such a bad thing??
I don't care if he makes a $5 profit or a $50 mil profit, that's not the point. I just get annoyed that every time a horse shows he might have talent (might being the operative word), from a sharp maiden performance to a nice prep score, IEAH or Godolphin has to buy them. At the rate they're going, they might as well offer the two groups a co-sponsorship deal for the Derby and give them each 10 slots to run horses in.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:06 PM
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Maybe DT needs a thread on all the big time Owners that should be banned from the game....

I guess it would have to include..
Jackson
IEAH
Godolfin
Ramsey
Pompa
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:09 PM
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I don't think they should be banned. I'd prefer a monthly waterboarding live on ESPN.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:12 PM
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I don't think they should be banned. I'd prefer a monthly waterboarding live on ESPN.
Correction: On Bravo.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:12 PM
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I don't think they should be banned. I'd prefer a monthly waterboarding live on ESPN.

perhaps some relatively new society mag could do expose's on the evils of big time owners
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:13 PM
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"Lanzman said he was looking to sell 50 percent of the colt, giving him a chance to make a profit, while still retaining his dream of running a leading contender in the Kentucky Derby.
"He's worth so much money now, it would be foolish not to take something off the table," said Lanzman, who owns a mortgage business in Los Angeles."



Being left handed I realize that I think differently than many but....
Other than it being IEAH that is the interested buyer...what is the big deal...why the rolling of the eyes...
The current owner wants to lock in a profit... is that such a bad thing??
i think it's like the yankees and their big budget. most teams have to work to get to the top, but some just want to buy their way there. there's nothing inherently wrong about it, but it's less than enjoyable for many.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:17 PM
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i think it's like the yankees and their big budget. most teams have to work to get to the top, but some just want to buy their way there. there's nothing inherently wrong about it, but it's less than enjoyable for many.

so it's ok to sell but it's not ok to buy.....
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:25 PM
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so it's ok to sell but it's not ok to buy.....
no one is saying don't sell, don't buy. but ieah is not viewed in a great light, so i'm not surprised anyone would be unhappy that they're purchasing another prospect.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:39 PM
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"Lanzman said he was looking to sell 50 percent of the colt, giving him a chance to make a profit, while still retaining his dream of running a leading contender in the Kentucky Derby.
"He's worth so much money now, it would be foolish not to take something off the table," said Lanzman, who owns a mortgage business in Los Angeles."



Being left handed I realize that I think differently than many but....
Other than it being IEAH that is the interested buyer...what is the big deal...why the rolling of the eyes...
The current owner wants to lock in a profit... is that such a bad thing??
If it doesn't work out for them, they can always ask the Government for bail out money, can't they???
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Old 03-22-2009, 01:38 PM
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Unrelated. They were in discussion with Lanzman before the Louisiana Derby.
Oh I'm sure, I was being facetious. Today is the era of buying your way into the Derby.
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Old 03-22-2009, 01:41 PM
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Oh I'm sure, I was being facetious. Today is the era of buying your way into the Derby.
kinda like the purchase of War Emblem a few years back...
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Old 03-22-2009, 02:07 PM
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kinda like the purchase of War Emblem a few years back...
Some similarities. I don't think people really felt like this was the Prince and Baffert who brought the colt along to that point and definitely grumbled that they bought themselves a prospect/winner but the thing is, War Emblem was not the hottest prospect on 4 hooves at the time. He was still a 21-1 longshot. They bought themselves a Derby horse but not anything that was going to be 9-1 or better.
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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Maybe DT needs a thread on all the big time Owners that should be banned from the game....

I guess it would have to include..
Jackson
IEAH
Godolfin
Ramsey
Pompa
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Why would you ban anyone who employees people and promotes racing.. Seriously I would love to sell 50% of my Gotham winner for 2 mil..to any fn body..lol
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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Why would you ban anyone who employees people and promotes racing.. Seriously I would love to sell 50% of my Gotham winner for 2 mil..to any fn body..lol
Except Drugs
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:12 PM
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Why would you ban anyone who employees people and promotes racing.. Seriously I would love to sell 50% of my Gotham winner for 2 mil..to any fn body..lol

you missed my whole point....what's the big deal if IEAH or anyone else wants to buy an interest in a horse when the current owner clearly wants to sell a part of him
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Old 03-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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you missed my whole point....what's the big deal if IEAH or anyone else wants to buy an interest in a horse when the current owner clearly wants to sell a part of him
I think I meant to reply to another post sorry
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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Like when that guy was trying to sell his 2% stake in Bwana Bull on Ebay by breaking it up into .05% shares for like 2K a pop right before the Derby - lolerz, that was rich

We've come a long way
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:54 PM
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Like when that guy was trying to sell his 2% stake in Bwana Bull on Ebay by breaking it up into .05% shares for like 2K a pop right before the Derby - lolerz, that was rich

We've come a long way
Oh wow I missed that.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:40 AM
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no one is saying don't sell, don't buy. but ieah is not viewed in a great light, so i'm not surprised anyone would be unhappy that they're purchasing another prospect.
another nice horse, that i'll now have to swallow hard and hold my nose to root for.
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