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Old 03-29-2009, 08:56 PM
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I don't believe in "bounce."

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Old 03-29-2009, 09:00 PM
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:07 PM
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I guess your clothes all have that static cling
No bounce, but Downy is fair game, no?

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Old 03-29-2009, 09:12 PM
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:13 PM
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:06 PM
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:21 AM
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GP: FL Derby - QR 103; Dunkirk 100
GP: Swale - Big Drama 109; TOFP 108
GP: Appleton - Kiss the Kid 101
GP: Bonnie Miss - Justwhistledixie 87

GP ALW/MSW'S:
Just Ben 96
Santana Six 96
Senor Leche 60
Glitterman's Cartel 94; Nicanor 93
Vitruvius 95
Jacoby's Run 76

Friday: Dr. Pleasure 103


AQU: Next Move - Weathred 90

SA: Tokyo City - Stream Cat 98
SA: San Miguel - Triumphant Flight 94
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:34 PM
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GP: FL Derby - QR 103; Dunkirk 100
GP: Swale - Big Drama 109; TOFP 108
GP: Appleton - Kiss the Kid 101
GP: Bonnie Miss - Justwhistledixie 87

GP ALW/MSW'S:
Just Ben 96
Santana Six 96
Senor Leche 60
Glitterman's Cartel 94; Nicanor 93
Vitruvius 95
Jacoby's Run 76

Friday: Dr. Pleasure 103


AQU: Next Move - Weathred 90

SA: Tokyo City - Stream Cat 98
SA: San Miguel - Triumphant Flight 94
So the mile races at GP have a +8 point adjustment vs. the standard par chart for the no-runup timing. Guess that makes sense. So 103 would be only 3 lower than what I get then after refiguring for the mile races.
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:07 PM
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Why didn't GP card any other 9f dirt races on Fla Derby day? It has to be pretty hard to assign a fig when the G1 is the only race at the distance on the card. Isn't that why they always used to card that 1 1/2 mile starter on the Belmont card?
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Why didn't GP card any other 9f dirt races on Fla Derby day? It has to be pretty hard to assign a fig when the G1 is the only race at the distance on the card. Isn't that why they always used to card that 1 1/2 mile starter on the Belmont card?
i can't imagine any racing secretary carding a race to help make it easier to figure out speed figures
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:30 PM
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i can't imagine any racing secretary carding a race to help make it easier to figure out speed figures
It's not just speed figures ... you can't properlly analyze several factors in a race as well when it's the only one on the whole card carded around two turns on dirt.

It's a disgrace that it keeps happening on big race days.
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:24 AM
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*Swale (GP): This Ones For Phil (R. Dutrow Jr./G. Gomez) - 108 (*Big Drama finished first with a 109 Beyer, but was disaqualified, and placed second)

*Rampart (GP): One Caroline (G. Arnold II/E. Prado) - 104
*Santa Paula (SA): Carlsbad (J. Mullins/T. Baze) - 103
*Florida Derby (GP): Quality Road (J. Jerkens/J. Velazquez) - 103
*Appleton (GP): Kiss the Kid (A. Tarrant/E. Trujillo) - 101
*Harrison E. Johnson Memorial (Lrl): Bullsbay (H. Motion/J. Rose) - 100
*Carousel (OP): Palanka City (T. Gestes/C. Emigh) - 100

*Sensational Star (SA): Liberian Freighter (N. Drysdale/R. Bejarano) - 99
*Tokyo City Cup (SA): Stream Cat (P. Biancone/J. Talamo) - 98
*San Miguel (SA): Triumphant Flight (J. Kruljac/V. Espinoza) - 94
*Strate Sunshine (Haw): Kathleens Reel (F. Kirby/I. Karlsson) - 91
*B-Connected (DeD): True Course (S. Margolis/I. Diego) - 91
*Next Move (Aqu): Weathered (K. Grusmark/M. Luzzi) - 90

*Portland Meadows Mile (PM): Crafty Power (J. Hollendorfer/J. Crispin) - 89
*Sunland Park Oaks (Sun): Gabby's Golden Gal (B. Baffert/V. Espinoza) - 88
*Bonnie Miss (GP): Justwhistledixie (K. McLaughlin/J. Leparoux) - 87
*Sunland Derby (Sun): Kelly Leak (M. Machowsky/M. Smith) - 87
*Harry W. Henson (Sun): Prairie Charm (G. Cross/K. Tohill) - 86
*Red Camelia (FG): Tensas Yucatan (M. Nicks/H. Theriot II) - 86
*Lookout (DeD): Ruling Class (T. Romero/K. Leblanc) - 85
*Missy's Mirage (Aqu): By the Light (R. Dutrow Jr./R. Migliore) - 84
*John E. Jackson Jr. Memorial (FG): Mr. Porter (T. Amoss/J. Graham) - 84
*Happy Ticket (FG): Alphadoodle (F. Leggio/R. Albarado) - 82
*Rainbow Miss (OP): Affirmed Truth (T. Ice/J. Court) - 80
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:49 AM
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It's not just speed figures ... you can't properlly analyze several factors in a race as well when it's the only one on the whole card carded around two turns on dirt.

It's a disgrace that it keeps happening on big race days.
Agreed. I'm really not a figure player but I like to have some perspective and when the G1 on the day is the only one at the configuration.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:58 PM
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I'll let our own 'speed boys' delve deepest, but those figures make perfect sense and show the track was a little faster than par. Dunkirk's # is rignt in line with his last, and Quality Road regressed logically on the initial two turn try off the huge one turn effort. What's the issue?
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