Islam in a nutshell

Originally Posted by Riot

I think you are under the mistaken impression that what you say matters.

There you go resorting to reading my mind.

Only a true nutjob would barge in a thread and tell everyone the point of the thread is not the original post about a senseless murder over a set of rules from a fairy tale...oh no...it is about the replies from posters fed up with the stupid bints who follow and defend said religious beliefs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

The point is that many on this board obviously hate Muslims just because they are Muslim, they can't shut up spewing their venom here in public, and they can't tolerate any other dissenting viewpoint that objects to fear, racism and hatred.

The asinine contributions here are self evident.

It is not hatred of Muslims but the irony of Muslims being the least tolerant religion yet demanding tolerence of their "customs" and the large amount of radical wings of islam that we are consistently told are just extremes. They want us to bend to their values yet the values that they supposedly hold dear offend the vast majority of the modern world. It is a two way street but when Islam or Muslims are called out we are racists or haters. They have the freedom to believe whatever they want but their religion is a joke and as i said before if they want to live in a place that gives a damn about their religious baggage then move to one of the many Islamic ruled countries found throughout the world.

[Cannon Shell]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123923457420703137.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123923457420703137.html

i'd say the most likely answer to what the question asked is 'no'. our supposed ally, karzai, signed that ridiculous law in afganistan just the other day. we don't really hold sway in many of these countries, regardless of how much we talk, how much money we send, etc. it's a clash of cultures, with the govt more fearful of the radicals within then from the democracts without.

imo, for the most part if we relent on anything, it's viewed as a sign of weakness, and as a signal to ask for more-it's what israel deals with vs palestine and the larger arab world.

it's funny in a sad way that many in iraq say they want us OUT, but are fearful of what our leaving will bring. i'd say within a few years of us exiting iraq it will have returned to what it once was-or worse.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This seems like a no brainer to me. She had to remove her burka for the mugshot. Regardless of what anyone here thinks of Islam as a whole, when you commit a crime and get arrested you have to take a mugshot. The purpose of the mugshot is to identify you, with a picture. Kind of hard to identify someone with a burka on. Her husband is an idiot, obviously. And I can't imagine this story takes off much. This has nothing to do with what anyone here thinks of Islam or Muslims. It has to do with an accused murderer and her stupid husband who think rules don't apply to them.

i'm trying to picture a line up with someone trying to identify the perpetrator, and it's all burka-covered women. yeah, that would work well...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This seems like a no brainer to me. She had to remove her burka for the mugshot. Regardless of what anyone here thinks of Islam as a whole, when you commit a crime and get arrested you have to take a mugshot. The purpose of the mugshot is to identify you, with a picture. Kind of hard to identify someone with a burka on. Her husband is an idiot, obviously. And I can't imagine this story takes off much. This has nothing to do with what anyone here thinks of Islam or Muslims. It has to do with an accused murderer and her stupid husband who think rules don't apply to them.

i'm trying to picture a line up with someone trying to identify the perpetrator, and it's all burka-covered women. yeah, that would work well...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This seems like a no brainer to me. She had to remove her burka for the mugshot. Regardless of what anyone here thinks of Islam as a whole, when you commit a crime and get arrested you have to take a mugshot. The purpose of the mugshot is to identify you, with a picture. Kind of hard to identify someone with a burka on. Her husband is an idiot, obviously. And I can't imagine this story takes off much. This has nothing to do with what anyone here thinks of Islam or Muslims. It has to do with an accused murderer and her stupid husband who think rules don't apply to them.

i'm trying to picture a line up with someone trying to identify the perpetrator, and it's all burka-covered women. yeah, that would work well...

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm trying to picture a line up with someone trying to identify the perpetrator, and it's all burka-covered women. yeah, that would work well...

What's scary is I was thinking the same thing! The one with brown eyes!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

What's scary is I was thinking the same thing! The one with brown eyes!

we just had one hell of a t'storm pass thru-with a crapload of hail to boot. that explains the multiple posts above....lol
it wasn't as tho that point was worth reiterating.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is not hatred of Muslims but the irony of Muslims being the least tolerant religion yet demanding tolerence of their "customs" and the large amount of radical wings of islam that we are consistently told are just extremes.

This thread is entitled "Islam in a nutshell". It starts with a broad general accusation about the whole religion, "Apparantly beating a child to death over a 4 day period is AOK. But take off a headscarf to take a mugshot of the murderer and it's an insult to Islam?"

Yet in the article only the husband said that. Nobody quoted representing Islam supported the husband's viewpoint.

So how is what happened in the article remotely representative of, "Islam in a nutshell"? It's not.

Some pointing that out apparently puts a unwelcome speed bump under the "Muslims suck and here's more proof" bandwagon, inciting quite vitriolic and nasty personal posts.

Hope all good Christians were in church this Easter morning.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

There you go resorting to reading my mind.

Only a true nutjob would barge in a thread and tell everyone the point of the thread is not the original post about a senseless murder over a set of rules from a fairy tale...oh no...it is about the replies from posters fed up with the stupid bints who follow and defend said religious beliefs.

Only a pathetically insecure nutjob would repeatedly barge into multiple threads on a message board simply to hurl crude insults and curses at people they didn't like.

Too bad your not liking certain people isn't their problem or concern, only yours.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

This thread is entitled "Islam in a nutshell". It starts with a broad general accusation about the whole religion, "Apparantly beating a child to death over a 4 day period is AOK. But take off a headscarf to take a mugshot of the murderer and it's an insult to Islam?"

Yet in the article only the husband said that. Nobody quoted representing Islam supported the husband's viewpoint.

So how is what happened in the article remotely representative of, "Islam in a nutshell"? It's not.

Some pointing that out apparently puts a unwelcome speed bump under the "Muslims suck and here's more proof" bandwagon, inciting quite vitriolic and nasty personal posts.

Hope all good Christians were in church this Easter morning.

The husband represented Islam by using religion as a weapon of opportunity in her defense. No one said all Muslims are bad. But as usual your myopic vision of what the rest of us who have a hard time trusting, believing or caring about anything related to Islam and its supposed virtues becomes the issue. The realities of the world always seems to get in the way...

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052009...ime_162775.htm

Now this doesnt mean all blacks are stupid or Liberals suck but....Spike Lee is an idiot who happens to be black and Bill Maher is a liberal who sucks...

[Riot]

The husband represented Islam by using religion as a weapon of opportunity in her defense. No one said all Muslims are bad.

So your position is that some woman's husband using his religion as a defense to cause a complaint means that all others of that religion feel the same way? ("Islam in a nutshell".)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

So your position is that some woman's husband using his religion as a defense to cause a complaint means that all others of that religion feel the same way? ("Islam in a nutshell".)

I didn't write the headline, just commented on the thread. And it seems like Muslims are involved in far more cases of using religion or insults to that religion than all other religions combined. Plus I was looking to use the word myopic in a thread today.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Plus I was looking to use the word myopic in a thread today.

Nicely done.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hope all good Christians were in church this Easter morning.

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmo64...eature=related

[Honu]

Taliban Execute Couple Seeking to ElopeBy AMIR SHAH and RAHIM FAIEZ, AP
posted: 6 HOURS 40 MINUTES AGOcomments: 641filed under: World NewsPrintShareText SizeAAAKABUL (April 14) - A Taliban firing squad killed a young couple in southwestern Afghanistan for trying to elope, shooting them with AK-47s in front of a crowd in a lawless, militant-controlled region, officials said Tuesday.
The woman, 19-year-old Gul Pecha, and the man, 21-year-old Abdul Aziz, were accused by the militants of immoral acts, and a council of conservative clerics decided that the two should be killed, officials said.
The two had hoped to travel to Iran, which borders their home province of Nimroz, but their parents sent villagers to bring them home, said Sadiq Chakhansori, the chief of the provincial council. Once back home, the pair was either turned over to the Taliban by their parents or the militants took them by force, the officials said, providing slightly varying accounts.
Riflemen in the remote district of Khash Rod shot them Monday, said Chakhansori.
"Unfortunately, Khash Rod is an area that is almost out of the control of the government," said Gov. Ghulam Dastagir Azad. "We don't have coalition or Afghan army forces there like we do in other districts.

The U.S. has 38,000 forces in Afghanistan, and President Barack Obama recently announced that the U.S. would send 21,000 more troops to the country this summer.
But in remote and dangerous regions of Afghanistan, Taliban fighters operate what are sometimes referred to as shadow governments, where militant leaders serve as government officials and run their own police units and pseudo court systems.
The conservative Taliban movement ruled Afghanistan from 1996-2001 and put in place harsh social rules that forbade unmarried men and women to talk or meet in public. Women were not allowed out of their homes without a male relative, and girls couldn't go to school.
Taliban fighters have widened their influence the last three years and now control many remote districts in Afghanistan where there are not enough U.S., NATO or Afghan forces to establish a permanent presence.
The Nimroz governor decried the fact that a three-person council of clerics operating outside the state's judicial system would level the death penalty.
"Through legal channels it would take months to prove such a case," Azad said. "How can these people make a decision in four days and kill them? No one has the right to kill anybody without the decision of a court."
Pecha, the woman, was an ethnic Pashtun from the region and a member of the Sunni sect of Islam, Azad said. Aziz was from the Shiite sect, Azad said, though he didn't know his ethnicity.
Nader Nadery, a spokesman for the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, said the killings were the "worst act against mankind" and "completely against the principles of human rights."

Again I say control your bad guys and people wont view Islam as a virus. It is just unbelieveable that anyone would stand for this , truly these people need to be educated .

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Again I say control your bad guys and people wont view Islam as a virus. It is just unbelieveable that anyone would stand for this , truly these people need to be educated .

Certainly you cannot be serious. Are you not familiar with the Taliban?

The Taliban represents Islam like the Klu Klux Klan represents Christians.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Certainly you cannot be serious. Are you not familiar with the Taliban?

The Taliban represents Islam like the Klu Klux Klan represents Christians.

So you are saying the Klu Klux Klan was in charge of America and our legal system?