Tom Durkin's call. - Page 2

CSC · #21 05-03-2009, 01:03 AM

LOL I had to laugh, another thread about lousy announcers.

copying · #22 05-03-2009, 01:29 AM

I had to listen to the race on the radio. I had no idea what the hell was going on. The first time Durkin mentioned MTB, the field was entering the far turn - the next time was when he was 4 lengths in front nearing the wire. Please retire Durkin!

onebadbeast · #23 05-03-2009, 01:45 AM

Like Tom Landry, Durkin, The Game Has Passed You By. The Call Was Like The Call Of A Buffoon! I Couldnt Even Get The Race Here In Berlin Until 15 Min After.

DaTruth · #24 05-03-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!

Why does Zayat insist on putting the "Z" on the front of the jockey's cap? It isn't like you can't already pick out his silks 1,500 feet away without binoculars. Pilots landing at Bluegrass airport have been known to remark, "Hey, I see that Zayat has a horse running."

westcoastinvader · #25 05-03-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

I'm not gonna give him a hard time for this call. Who the fu*k expected Mine That Bird to come storming up the rail? It was equal to the day Denman missed Street Sense in the BC Juvy. I was only miffed at Trev that day because I bet SS with two hands and I have trouble picking the saddle towel numbers when they are all purple.

Tom was probably utterly stunned, as was I, sitting on my couch. I didn't have words either.

In the 1986 Kentucky Derby call, Ferdinand is not mentioned the entire race until he and Shoemaker make the lead just before the finish.

Trust me on this. It's one of my fave Kentucky Derby tapes and I've watched it scores of times.

All of ABC's 90 minutes.

:-)

DaTruth · #26 05-03-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

In the 1986 Kentucky Derby call, Ferdinand is not mentioned the entire race until he and Shoemaker make the lead just before the finish.

Trust me on this. It's one of my fave Kentucky Derby tapes and I've watched it scores of times.

All of ABC's 90 minutes.

:-)

Here is the race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuMp9AjKqf0

PatCummings · #27 05-03-2009, 02:30 AM

I'm convinced that catching that late move on the rail is one of the toughest things for an announcer - and almost every announcer is going to hesitate before calling the name of a rank outsider to take the lead inside the furlong marker of the Kentucky Derby - you literally want to make sure you are correct. Tough.

westcoastinvader · #28 05-03-2009, 02:31 AM

My miff on this year's telecast is more with NBC on the cameras.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they had a single shot in the telecast that showed the vast difference between Mine That Bird and the rest of the field in the early going.

I understand no isolated camera, but there should have always been a broad shot available to catch the entire field.

westcoastinvader · #29 05-03-2009, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Here is the race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuMp9AjKqf0

Thanks.

Now it's "scores," plus one!

PatCummings · #30 05-03-2009, 02:40 AM

Only the Godolphin pair had different hats for the same silks. Crazy the WinStar tri-entry didn't.

DaTruth · #31 05-03-2009, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Thanks.

Now it's "scores," plus one!

I wish I could watch my racing tapes from the 1980s, but the tapes are in the Beta format and my Betamax broke when I finally sat down to begin the task of putting them all on DVDs.

westcoastinvader · #32 05-03-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

I wish I could watch my racing tapes from the 1980s, but the tapes are in the Beta format and my Betamax broke when I finally sat down to begin the task of putting them all on DVDs.

Fortunately my first recording device was VHS, circa 1985.

Until recently I thought I had the entire 90 minute telecast of every Kentucky Derby since 1986.

Ironically, the other night I went searching for the 1996 Grindstone derby after catching a recent feature video of him.....I think on bloodhorse.com

Turns out, I don't have the 1996. But thinking about it, I was between wives in that period.

I must have been busy with other things....

Merlinsky · #33 05-03-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _ed_

Yeah, very good call I thought. His only mistake was that went back to the English (and correct

) way of pronouncing Derby near the end of the race, but that's forgivable.

How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."

_ed_ · #34 05-03-2009, 04:19 AM

Do you pronounce everything exactly how it's spelt?

I just think it's correct because that's how the race it's named after is pronounced. Anyway, it was just a random comment and a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt at humour, at about the quality level you can expect from me when I'm bored at work.

Scurlogue Champ · #35 05-03-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."

The same way it is correct to pronounce Paris (pah-ree)

I'm as American as anyone, but we do say it wrong.

I like hearing guys at the OTB in Kentucky pronouncing that Juddmonte horse Champs Elysees as if they never had a history class.

parsixfarms · #36 05-03-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"?

Or Versailles as "Ver-sales," as they do in Kentucky?

Linny · #37 05-03-2009, 08:05 AM

The race was named after the "Derby Stakes" in England and THAT race is pronounced dArby after Lord Derby, pronounced Darby. Ask Lord Derby about the pronunciation. It's been going on for centuries.
Every other racing nation that runs races called "Derbies" uses the British pronunciation.

I get a kick out of "Champs El-EE-es" as if the horse were from Ver-Sales KY!

SlewsMyHero · #38 05-03-2009, 08:06 AM

I love Durkin, but his call was reminiscent of Denman's call or miscall of Street Sense in the BC Juvenile. In all fairness, Mark Johnson did not catch the big move early either. He did call the winner sooner than Durkin did, but it wasn't like he saw him in early stretch. Johnson made the call just as MTB was taking the lead. I think announcers just get used to horses rallying on the outside and sometimes just don't see the ones that sneak up on the rail. All in all, I thought Mark Johnson's call was clearly superior to Durkin's.

Travis Stone · #39 05-03-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!

This is so true. When race calling with the same silks, at least in my opinion, you can verify the horse by other markings, jockey style or in the worst case, by its saddle cloth. In the Derby, however, with three horses of the same silk and virtually no chance of seeing a saddle cloth... yikes. You're in the "look through the rest of the field for the other two first" territory. Brutal.

basement bob · #40 05-03-2009, 09:29 AM

i love tom durkin, but it's time he retired, he just dosen't have it anymore.