Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 08-03-2009, 09:41 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogey
I agree with you and I can see a similar outcome to the Rossi Gold where Rumor Has It did his best Presious Passion impersonation on Saturday. I don't handicap races before the actual PP's come out (As some do ex. PG), but it looks like he could have it his own way on the front end.

Scav, Da Skill says mid 80's and dry, so I go with the top weather handicapper in the country. It's like he makes the weather Morning Lines and others follow. Looking forward to a great day of racing.
I like being prepared.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-03-2009, 09:46 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockguy
Blue Square bet on this below- Stotsfold is very very interesting at 16-1!!

Arlington Million

Blue Square: 9-4 Gio Ponti, 7-2 Gloria de Campeao, 4 Einstein, 9-2 Cima de Triomphe, 6 Mr Sidney, 14 Presious Passion, 16 Stotsfold, 20 Just As Well, 33 Recapturetheglory.
Is this the European odds Brock? No doubt the Euro's always go off higher over here.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-03-2009, 09:49 PM
smuthg's Avatar
smuthg smuthg is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I'm intrigued by Presious Passion in this race; should he go. We're accustomed to horses wiring on the AP turf by setting slow fractions (or collapsing after having set slow fractions -- whatever the case my be). If this horse is able to set fast fractions on that course and hold off this field, a more impressive effort would be hard to imagine. This could turn out to be a very special race.
Somewhere, I hope The Tin Man read that post and laughed...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-03-2009, 09:55 PM
the_fat_man's Avatar
the_fat_man the_fat_man is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,676
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smuthg
Somewhere, I hope The Tin Man read that post and laughed...
Why is that? This horse burns on the front end and runs them off their feet early by opening long leads or is able to ACCELERATE once headed late. If I remember correctly, The Tin Man got good setups, set slow paces, and won the cheap way.

You really need to watch of few of PP's races; especially the last one at MTH. Might wake you up.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-03-2009, 09:57 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogey
I agree with you and I can see a similar outcome to the Rossi Gold where Rumor Has It did his best Presious Passion impersonation on Saturday. I don't handicap races before the actual PP's come out (As some do ex. PG), but it looks like he could have it his own way on the front end.

Scav, Da Skill says mid 80's and dry, so I'll go with the top weather handicapper in the country. It's like he makes the weather Morning Lines and others follow. Looking forward to a great day of racing.
Da Skill is unbelievable. I have been messing with Jerry Taft lately, only because of Giangreco sports reports are great but for important days, I rely on Skilling.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:39 PM
Bogey's Avatar
Bogey Bogey is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Da Skill is unbelievable. I have been messing with Jerry Taft lately, only because of Giangreco sports reports are great but for important days, I rely on Skilling.
I was skeptical of him when I moved up here in '05, but I'm convinced he is much the best.
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:41 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Arlington has an error on their website - Mr. Sidney wasn't even close to being first in the Met - he was 11th.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Bogey's Avatar
Bogey Bogey is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek
Arlington has an error on their website - Mr. Sidney wasn't even close to being first in the Met - he was 11th.
Ross Graham also said on Friday's video that he just received a phone call and that Forever Together was going to scratch from the Diana for the Bev D.
I wouldn't rely on there information.
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogey
Ross Graham also said on Friday's video that he just received a phone call and that Forever Together was going to scratch from the Diana for the Bev D.
I wouldn't rely on there information.
Skill just touted 96 and hazy....

That would SUCK!!
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:52 PM
Bogey's Avatar
Bogey Bogey is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Skill just touted 96 and hazy....

That would SUCK!!
Damn, hottest day of the year. It's been such a cool summer that sometime had to give. Better than rain I suppose.
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 08-03-2009, 10:54 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Skill just touted 96 and hazy....

That would SUCK!!
Lucky for me I can tolerate the heat much more than the cold and wet.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 08-04-2009, 12:27 AM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Gladiatorus
Announced a couple of days ago he's not coming.

Treat Gently just had a workout (Saratoga) a couple of days ago... anyone know where she's pointed?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 08-04-2009, 12:48 AM
PatCummings PatCummings is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: DubaiRaceNight.com
Posts: 1,263
Default

Gloria De Campeao won in Singapore when it was high 90s and humid as anything...don't think the weather will affect him.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-04-2009, 02:46 AM
brockguy's Avatar
brockguy brockguy is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Is this the European odds Brock? No doubt the Euro's always go off higher over here.
yep it is, though saying that, Blue Square have been known to be way off on their ante post odds..
__________________


#Grand
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 08-04-2009, 05:32 AM
golfer's Avatar
golfer golfer is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,608
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Skill just touted 96 and hazy....

That would SUCK!!
No problem, that's every day here, I can handle it
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-04-2009, 07:35 AM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockguy
yep it is, though saying that, Blue Square have been known to be way off on their ante post odds..
If the turf is on the firm side you know who that favors 4th place finish recently, apparently he wants firmer ground so hopefully he will get it at Arlington.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 08-04-2009, 06:38 PM
smuthg's Avatar
smuthg smuthg is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Why is that? This horse burns on the front end and runs them off their feet early by opening long leads or is able to ACCELERATE once headed late. If I remember correctly, The Tin Man got good setups, set slow paces, and won the cheap way.

You really need to watch of few of PP's races; especially the last one at MTH. Might wake you up.
I couldn't agree more with your assessment of PP. I just was commenting that The Tin Man almost won two Millions in a row on the front end.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.