Obama's New Strategy - Page 2

dellinger63 · #21 07-28-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Actually, no, in my experience. Everyone I know who voted for Obama believes in freedom of religion, and didn't require proof of atheism from Obama before they voted for him.

I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

Riot · #22 07-28-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

Riot · #23 07-28-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

not represented at all just Obama supporters which is what you originally asked for. Remember "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom" You somehow segued into religious intolerance of the few who think Obama is muslim and certainly they represent the Republicans?

I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.

Antitrust32 · #24 07-28-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

I wouldnt doubt it if Obama isnt religious. Along with 50% or more of politicians.. including Repubs. The thing is.. if you let anyone believe you arent religious you have no hope of getting elected to any office.

dellinger63 · #25 07-28-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.

Ok then I should have said it's "My experience that the Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

dellinger63 · #26 07-28-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL

Antitrust32 · #27 07-28-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Ok then I should have said it's "My experience Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.

Antitrust32 · #28 07-28-2009, 05:39 PM

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Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL

its because its political BullCrap. Obama will say ANYTHING as long as it makes his numbers at the polls look better.

I've never seen someone backtrack so much in my life. He's like Clinton (bill) but way more liberal.

"Unemployment will not go above 8% if we pass the stimulus"
"Oh... well... umm... Bush left me with the problem"

"equality for gays"
"oh...well.. umm.. equality for gays gotta wait"
"oh.. wait.. the gays are mad at me now.. well I'll get right on this"

"i'm against mccain's idea to tax employee benefits to fund health care"
"oh.. well.. maybe its a good idea, what do the polls suggest?"

he even backtracked on the gates racism thing.

its becoming way too predictable.

dellinger63 · #29 07-28-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.

She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

Antitrust32 · #30 07-28-2009, 05:47 PM

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She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

of course. see post #28.

everything he does is for political reasons. its so obvious, and not different than any other elected official.

except Palin of course. She only does things for Jesus reasons.

Riot · #31 07-28-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Ok then I should have said it's "My experience that the Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

Only if you wanted to try and put words in my mouth, that I came nowhere near to saying.

Riot · #32 07-28-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

??? I hope you are not talking about me. I didn't say that.

brianwspencer · #33 07-28-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of anything they're not.

FTFY

dellinger63 · #34 07-28-2009, 06:01 PM

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??? I hope you are not talking about me. I didn't say that.

"He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.? a majority or minority ?

Riot · #35 07-28-2009, 06:14 PM

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"He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.? a majority or minority ?

I have no idea if they are a majority or minority (of what?) They certainly are vocally intolerant of Muslims. Last time I looked, freedom of religion is allowed in America.

Here is a link to a video of the original Obama interview prayer portion that Dell references. It's a few minutes long.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/...ace-in-Prayer/

Riot · #36 07-28-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".

dellinger63 · #37 07-28-2009, 06:24 PM

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I have no idea if they are a majority or minority (of what?) They certainly are vocally intolerant of Muslims. Last time I looked, freedom of religion is allowed in America.

It is and it's a shame that the same doesn't exist in the vast majority of Muslim countries.

Some in those countries aren't just vocally intolerant but will cut your head off kind of intolerant.

Antitrust32 · #38 07-28-2009, 06:24 PM

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FTFY

basically... and they wonder why congress and the WH is full of dems..

dellinger63 · #39 07-28-2009, 06:25 PM

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BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".

He voted for Obama I'm sure of that. LOL

Riot · #40 07-28-2009, 06:33 PM

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It is and it's a shame that the same doesn't exist in the vast majority of Muslim countries.

Some in those countries aren't just vocally intolerant but will cut your head off kind of intolerant.

Can you name those, "vast majority of Muslim countries" for us? Which countries do you think are particularly offensive in that regard?