Horse of the Year - Page 2

tector · #21 09-05-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822

I agree I think they shut her down. Unless the voters decide to punish the connections for not going to the BC, she gets horse of the year.

You are also going to have people who want to punish the whole concept of plastic tracks and the idiocy of the BC for embracing it without any thought.

It's over. It is Horse of the Year, not Horse Of The First Weekend In November. In every sense she has been the horse of the year. Unless the poobahs of racing are suicidal idiots who want to crap on the fans (hmmmm...let's not rule that out), it would be nuts to consider any other horse.

I sincerely doubt she runs again this year. You probably next see her prepping for the Donn. She just won a race she absolutely had no business winning, going all out. Possibly putting aside some top horses on the SoCal plasterboard tracks of yore, who goes out 22 and 4 in a two turn 9f race and still comes home in 12 and 4?

Not too many.

If Moss was smart he'd take the Beldame challenge. But if he was REALLY smart, he wouldn't, because IP is the most likely winner. And at this point the most camp Zenyatta can hope for is holding on the Older F&M title, which is no longer a lock for them. They just need to stick to their boring-ass plan and hope that IP doesn't like the chewed up Tupperware.

#22 09-05-2009, 06:51 PM

So the consensus is she's done for the year because of one tough race? No wonder why this sport is behind bowling and cornhole on espn.

I can see it now...

Once horse racing is done as a sport the fans that are left will switch to Tennis and demand a tournament end after the star has a tough 5-setter in the quarters.

tector · #23 09-05-2009, 06:58 PM

There is no longer any upside, Mr. Pants.

Buy a horse like her and you'll understand.

First, however, you'll have to figure a way to get $10 million dollars.

RockHardTen1985 · #24 09-05-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Zero chance she runs again this year.

I agree, but post race Jackson sounded like he would run her, if there was a spot.

Cannon Shell · #25 09-05-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tector

There is no longer any upside, Mr. Pants.

Buy a horse like her and you'll understand.

First, however, you'll have to figure a way to get $10 million dollars.

You have experience with buying 8 million dollar horses? At least get the price right.

Cannon Shell · #26 09-05-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I agree, but post race Jackson sounded like he would run her, if there was a spot.

If there was a spot? Is there a lack of 1 1/8th stake races in the fall?

hurricanefrank · #27 09-05-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So the consensus is she's done for the year because of one tough race? No wonder why this sport is behind bowling and cornhole on espn.

I can see it now...

Once horse racing is done as a sport the fans that are left will switch to Tennis and demand a tournament end after the star has a tough 5-setter in the quarters.

I think the race was tough because the 2009 campaign is catching up with her. If I owned her I'd shut her down.

RockHardTen1985 · #28 09-05-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If there was a spot? Is there a lack of 1 1/8th stake races in the fall?

He said something like that on the MSG plus show. Donovan asked him, he responded with " it depends on how she coms out of this and if there was a spot worth running her" Im guessing that means, if Zenyatta comes and joins Icon Project in the Beldame.

Cannon Shell · #29 09-05-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hurricanefrank

I think the race was tough because the 2009 campaign is catching up with her. If I owned her I'd shut her down.

If I owned her I'd sell her.

Cannon Shell · #30 09-05-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He said something like that on the MSG plus show. Donovan asked him, he responded with " it depends on how she coms out of this and if there was a spot worth running her" Im guessing that means, if Zenyatta comes and joins Icon Project in the Beldame.

He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

RockHardTen1985 · #31 09-05-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

100% agree. What will her campaign be like next year?

Cannon Shell · #32 09-05-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

100% agree. What will her campaign be like next year?

mystery novel

DaTruth · #33 09-05-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer

Rachel's race today was awesome and I am a big fan. However, even with all she has accomplished, isn't a little early to be declaring that she has wrapped up horse of the year honors? Andy beyer said it this morning. The guys on TVG have been saying it as well.

If Zenyatta comes east for the Beldame and beats Rachel and then goes on to win the Breeder's Cup Classic, wouldn't she have to be horse of the year? Not likely to happen (I know) but as great as today is for racing, it cannot possibly have definatively settled the horse of the year question.

Paul

In addition to totally dominating her division, she has defeated last year's Belmont winner, and the winners of this year's Derby, Belmont, Travers, Whitney, and Foster, New Orleans, and Oaklawn Handicaps. What more can we ask of her? She has beaten everything in her path this year.

DaTruth · #34 09-05-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

mystery novel

I don't think they can settle on beating up older fillies and mares after what she has done this year.

Since Steve will have her at Fair Grounds next year, she will make her bow in the Mineshaft on February 20, with her main early objective being the March 27 Dubai World Cup over the new Meydan course.

Cannon Shell · #35 09-05-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

In addition to totally dominating her division, she has defeated last year's Belmont winner, and the winners of this year's Derby, Belmont, Travers, Whitney, and Foster, New Orleans, and Oaklawn Handicaps. What more can we ask of her? She has beaten everything in her path this year.

You can stop refering to last years Belmont winner as such as they obviously ran a ringer in that race.

GPK · #36 09-05-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

mystery novel

Did she run as a 4 YO?

DaTruth · #37 09-05-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You can stop refering to last years Belmont winner as such as they obviously ran a ringer in that race.

I was going to refer to him as last year's Belmont champion, but I figured that would look too suspicious.

freddymo · #38 09-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

If Zenyatta comes to the Beldame Jess nor Rachel will disappoint. He needs the purse money to help pay the 7 not 8mil he bought her for!

RockHardTen1985 · #39 09-05-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

I don't think they can settle on beating up older fillies and mares after what she has done this year.

Since Steve will have her at Fair Grounds next year, she will make her bow in the Mineshaft on February 20, with her main early objective being the March 27 Dubai World Cup over the new Meydan course.

DWC? I think they plan on keeping her off synthetics. Right?

Cannon Shell · #40 09-05-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

If Zenyatta comes to the Beldame Jess nor Rachel will disappoint. He needs the purse money to help pay the 7 not 8mil he bought her for!

There is a better shot of Rampillion winning the Arc than Zenyatta leaving CA.