Obama: Too much debt could fuel double-dip recession

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It certainly hasnt helped Delonte West this season. I was at the game last night. The cavs were shorthanded and that bum still only got on the floor for 20 minutes. I guess its hard to get PT when you are stuck behind luminaries like Anthony Parker and Jamario Moon.

Perhaps you heard he was having some issues and they were slowly working him back? Or maybe you are just insensitive to those with mental health issues. So non-liberal of you.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

You should have stopped right after you questioned your source. There are extenions and loopholes and then you can apply for a green card which kind of sets the clock again... As I have said millions.

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

[Danzig]

and then there's this....


http://www.factcheck.org/2009/11/rea...ake-districts/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

but she's a republican

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

Then she needs to do a tad bit more research than what she finds on Wikipedia.

[SOREHOOF]

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

That's a good one

[SOREHOOF]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34139
For your reading pleasure!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34139
For your reading pleasure!

And you think I'm going to believe an op-ed piece written by a guy under an Ann Coulter banner? Talking about being brainwashed

[SOREHOOF]

I knew you would get a kick out of it!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I knew you would get a kick out of it!

I'll read that if you read and believe what I'll post by Al Gore on Global Warming

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'll read that if you read and believe what I'll post by Al Gore on Global Warming

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Perhaps you heard he was having some issues and they were slowly working him back? Or maybe you are just insensitive to those with mental health issues. So non-liberal of you.

I was the one yelling "delonte, i know a good lawyer".

That is the first time I had ever seen Lebron that close (we were really close to the floor). That is a big man. I was completely in awe of him physically.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

Can't get the link to work, but I guess FOX lies like everyone else. The last paragraph says it all

Mea Culpa: Fox News keeps making conservative-friendly mistakes
Jeff Bercovici
Nov 19th 2009 at 4:45PMText SizeAAAFiled under: People, Media, News Corp.
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Every news organization makes mistakes. But when Fox News makes mistakes, they seem to tilt in a suspiciously consistent direction, favoring Republicans and conservatives over Democrats and liberals.

It happened again Wednesday, when host Gregg Jarrett, introducing a segment on Happening Now, described the "huge crowds" that were turning out to greet Sarah Palin on the promotional tour for her book, Going Rogue. "These are some of the pictures just coming into us," Jarrett said as images of Palin surrounded by throngs of supporters flashed across the screen.



While Palin may indeed be drawing big crowds, it didn't take long for liberal watchdog blogs like Think Progress and Media Matters to point out that the masses Jarrett touted on Happening Now had nothing to do with Palin's book; the footage was from a 2008 campaign rally. Called on the switcheroo, Fox blamed it on a "production error" and issued an on-air apology.

The whole thing might have gone unnoticed had it not been for an eerily similar incident last week in a much more prominent venue, Sean Hannity's primetime show. In this case, the crowd Hannity was hyping was the one that gathered to attend a rally against the healthcare bill on November 5. The footage he showed, however, was from the much larger Sept. 12 "tea parties." In that case, it was The Daily Show that blew the whistle, forcing Hannity to apologize on the following day's show.

And then, of course, there are all the Republican miscreants Fox has mistakenly identified as Democrats, like Mark Sanford and Mark Foley, and the insufficiently doctrinaire Republicans it has ID'd as Democrats, like John McCain and Arlen Specter (who did, in fact, become a Democrat later).

One would like to think that all of these were genuine accidents, not intentional efforts to mislead viewers. Hannity's show is advocacy, not news, but even he could surely find more effective and less backfire-prone ways to influence the debate than outright deception.

Even so, this pattern of ideologically-slanted errors illustrates the danger of packaging a news operation around a core of opinion programming. As long as Fox News is a network by and for conservatives, the people who produce its shows -- even its "objective" shows -- are going to see in the news what they expect to see rather than what it really is.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Can't get the link to work, but I guess FOX lies like everyone else. The last paragraph says it all

Mea Culpa: Fox News keeps making conservative-friendly mistakes
Jeff Bercovici
Nov 19th 2009 at 4:45PMText SizeAAAFiled under: People, Media, News Corp.
More

Every news organization makes mistakes. But when Fox News makes mistakes, they seem to tilt in a suspiciously consistent direction, favoring Republicans and conservatives over Democrats and liberals.

It happened again Wednesday, when host Gregg Jarrett, introducing a segment on Happening Now, described the "huge crowds" that were turning out to greet Sarah Palin on the promotional tour for her book, Going Rogue. "These are some of the pictures just coming into us," Jarrett said as images of Palin surrounded by throngs of supporters flashed across the screen.



While Palin may indeed be drawing big crowds, it didn't take long for liberal watchdog blogs like Think Progress and Media Matters to point out that the masses Jarrett touted on Happening Now had nothing to do with Palin's book; the footage was from a 2008 campaign rally. Called on the switcheroo, Fox blamed it on a "production error" and issued an on-air apology.

The whole thing might have gone unnoticed had it not been for an eerily similar incident last week in a much more prominent venue, Sean Hannity's primetime show. In this case, the crowd Hannity was hyping was the one that gathered to attend a rally against the healthcare bill on November 5. The footage he showed, however, was from the much larger Sept. 12 "tea parties." In that case, it was The Daily Show that blew the whistle, forcing Hannity to apologize on the following day's show.

And then, of course, there are all the Republican miscreants Fox has mistakenly identified as Democrats, like Mark Sanford and Mark Foley, and the insufficiently doctrinaire Republicans it has ID'd as Democrats, like John McCain and Arlen Specter (who did, in fact, become a Democrat later).

One would like to think that all of these were genuine accidents, not intentional efforts to mislead viewers. Hannity's show is advocacy, not news, but even he could surely find more effective and less backfire-prone ways to influence the debate than outright deception.

Even so, this pattern of ideologically-slanted errors illustrates the danger of packaging a news operation around a core of opinion programming. As long as Fox News is a network by and for conservatives, the people who produce its shows -- even its "objective" shows -- are going to see in the news what they expect to see rather than what it really is.

ABC ,CBS , NBC , CNN ........whats the big deal , they all slant crap the way they want it to go , none of them just report the news.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You arent looking very hard

Like who?

Are any of you guys still in the "we shouldn't have done anything" camp? As I recall, there were not alot of alternative suggestions offered up in the past.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

You should have stopped right after you questioned your source. There are extenions and loopholes and then you can apply for a green card which kind of sets the clock again... As I have said millions.

Yeah, millions and millions and millions! Because .... where did you get that info from?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is pretty simple why the stimlus package hasnt helped. The vast majority of it wasnt stimlus. This was pointed out by some of us DT economists this Spring and lo and behold we were onto something.

But the stimulus package has helped.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

The actual real unemployment rate right now is closer to 17-18% right now, since unemployment numbers do not count people that are unemployed that are not eligible for any more benefits.

Yes, and the actual "real" unemployment rate previously has been 8% when it is reported as 4%, etc. Everyone knows that. The unemployment numbers used always do not count them. But using the same numbers, calculated the same way, as we have always measured unemployment rates, makes sense when comparing, hum?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Then she needs to do a tad bit more research than what she finds on Wikipedia.

So share yours - I'd love to see where you got your "millions" number from?