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Old 02-01-2010, 11:17 AM
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The biggest bet I ever made in my life was on Mossflower when she first ran in a stakes. The Beyer guys had demoted her figure for no apparent reason from a 110 to something in the low 100s if I remember right. I think it was the Hempstead. So yes, I love it, I take advantage of it when possible.
I wonder why they elect to not just post them as they should and subject them to creavity.I get why you wouldnt want them to change but it seems arrogant to adjust just for the sake of adjusting?
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:25 AM
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I think they do it out of ignorance, not arrogance. They don't look at pace so they don't know why the horse ran slower (or faster) than expected. Since it isn't understood, it is just assumed the track changed. That is my opinion only.
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:31 AM
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Maybe they like to set up a bet every now and again.......my view from the grassy knoll.
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:33 AM
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I think they do it out of ignorance, not arrogance. They don't look at pace so they don't know why the horse ran slower (or faster) than expected. Since it isn't understood, it is just assumed the track changed. That is my opinion only.
Whatever the case its silly to rep what isnt
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:49 AM
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Sweet Repent continues to prove that the fillies born in 2006 are a very nice group. She's won 5 in a row, the last 3 earning Beyer's over 100. She hasn't had to beat much but she's done all they've asked.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:27 PM
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Of course that is why they did it, and it does make horses that didn't run well look better. They do it in big races and small races alike ALL THE TIME.
They did it for some reason because they do it ALL THE TIME.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:31 PM
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I wonder why they elect to not just post them as they should and subject them to creavity.I get why you wouldnt want them to change but it seems arrogant to adjust just for the sake of adjusting?
It's three times now that they've cut the wonder Pig's race loose from the whole card to give his race a lower fig.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:32 PM
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They did it for some reason because they do it ALL THE TIME.
Actually, they don't do it all the time, just some of the time. In my opinion that makes it even worse. I guess some figure makers for Beyer are more stringent than others.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:13 PM
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They did it for some reason because they do it ALL THE TIME...

But actually, they don't do it all the time, just some of the time.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:34 PM
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They did it for some reason because they do it ALL THE TIME...

But actually, they don't do it all the time, just some of the time.
I assume this is your way of poking fun. I didn't really want to get into the reasons but to point out it was done. Those that care probably already know, and those that don't care don't want to know.

I should have said they do it often. Does that make you happy?
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:49 PM
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It doesn't take much to make me happy CJ.

A shiny set of keys might do the trick ... and a tube sock certainly would.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:52 PM
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I have all kind of shiny keys around here. I have no idea what they open, but you can have them.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:18 AM
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Is this deemed the non scientific/artist license that Fig makers require?
My secret's out. Damn it.
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