great hockey game..russ/check repub

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

OMG what a game. It felt like the juniors all over again. I swear I thought they were going to OT. Miller was unbelieveable and that goal by Kessler was ridiculous. Nothing would make me happier than to see Canada lose to Germany and get knocked out. I don't know why, but all of a sudden I have all this animosity to Canada. I'm not sure where it came from, I think something about the way they heckled the US kids at the juniors. But I would rather see the Russians win the gold over the Canadiens. But a great night for the U.S. even though they were outplayed for most of the night.

all the goals were i ugly ones on the half of the US, i loved it. They know they dont have the skill and speed to run and gun with those guys. Good old fashion hockey right there. Nothing like beating canada.....in canada, go drink your molson and feed your pet beaver eh

-bt-

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

the effort on the empty neter was ridiculous! but reflected the team effort all night.

that was a hell of a play, hell of a game. no one seemed to want to take a breath. the level of play was amazing.

[GBBob]

It really was great hockey and limited commercials made the pace seem that much faster. Obviously thrilled with the results, but Brodeur played soft and stupid and Miller on fire so taking it with a grain of salt. Still would be amazed if they can get a bronze. Although the hitting was tough, there still seems to be a level of respect among all the NHL guys not to go too crazy. Wait until we start playing the Russians, etc with half NHL and half Club players. Those Club guys won't give a crap about who they hit or what they do to them.

And how about the Canadians doing a Three Stooges and all running into each other..that was classic

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It really was great hockey and limited commercials made the pace seem that much faster. Obviously thrilled with the results, but Brodeur played soft and stupid and Miller on fire so taking it with a grain of salt. Still would be amazed if they can get a bronze. Although the hitting was tough, there still seems to be a level of respect among all the NHL guys not to go too crazy. Wait until we start playing the Russians, etc with half NHL and half Club players. Those Club guys won't give a crap about who they hit or what they do to them.

And how about the Canadians doing a Three Stooges and all running into each other..that was classic

that was pretty funny...

reading this am that brodeur should have been pulled. it was a fantastic game, edge of your seat type play. only bad thing was the play by play guy, i don't care for doc. i have a feeling it's going to be russia winning the thing, but i'd LOVE to see the u.s. pull it off.

[GBBob]

Canada 96
Germany 1

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that was pretty funny...

reading this am that brodeur should have been pulled. it was a fantastic game, edge of your seat type play. only bad thing was the play by play guy, i don't care for doc. i have a feeling it's going to be russia winning the thing, but i'd LOVE to see the u.s. pull it off.

I don't know about that, 2 of the goals were deflected in and one was off a mad scramble in front (that Marty actually created). And this comes from a person who despises Marty. I would love nothing more then for Babcock to do the unthinkable and put Luongo in. You would think that it would be the ultimate slap in the face for the guy who might go down as the greatest ever (as painful as it is for me to say).
I do think that since he is allowed to handle the puck more (because of olympic rules), actually hurts him because it's something he doesn't get to do anymore and he is excellent at it. But he does it so much that, it seemed last night he was always scrambling trying to get back into position and I believe it cost him on at least one goal.
I not a big Emrick fan either, but I think him and Eddie O did a good job last night. I enjoyed the game/telecast very much (but the outcome probably had a big thing to do with that). Also for the most part last night except for the late penalty against the U.S., the refs did a good job letting them play.

[Heels1989]

I like Eddie O as an analyst, though I laughed out loud when he said this is "tremendously tremendous" late in the game.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Heels1989

I like Eddie O as an analyst, though I laughed out loud when he said this is "tremendously tremendous" late in the game.

We are lucky to have him as the Hawks everyday color commentator. A huge horse fan too...took down the big $106K Pick 6 at SA last year. See him quite often at the OTB and met him at the Rene Douglas Charity Dinner...really good and classy guy.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know about that, 2 of the goals were deflected in and one was off a mad scramble in front (that Marty actually created). And this comes from a person who despises Marty. I would love nothing more then for Babcock to do the unthinkable and put Luongo in. You would think that it would be the ultimate slap in the face for the guy who might go down as the greatest ever (as painful as it is for me to say).
I do think that since he is allowed to handle the puck more (because of olympic rules), actually hurts him because it's something he doesn't get to do anymore and he is excellent at it. But he does it so much that, it seemed last night he was always scrambling trying to get back into position and I believe it cost him on at least one goal.
I not a big Emrick fan either, but I think him and Eddie O did a good job last night. I enjoyed the game/telecast very much (but the outcome probably had a big thing to do with that). Also for the most part last night except for the late penalty against the U.S., the refs did a good job letting them play.

i'm a marty fan and with all the traffic he had right in front of him all night. i thought he played a heck of a game. look at all the odd-man rushes he faced and Started odd-mans in canada's favor. marty didn't play a bad game, IMO.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i'm a marty fan and with all the traffic he had right in front of him all night. i thought he played a heck of a game. look at all the odd-man rushes he faced and Started odd-mans in canada's favor. marty didn't play a bad game, IMO.

Darren, I was actually defending Marty. I don't think a goaltending change is warrented. I was responding to Dani's take on Marty's performance. Like I said, I think you can only fault him on one, maybe two of the goals.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Darren, I was actually defending Marty. I don't think a goaltending change is warrented. I was responding to Dani's take on Marty's performance. Like I said, I think you can only fault him on one, maybe two of the goals.

was trying to add onto yours. canada can't expect to get off 44 shots and not get MB hung out to dry.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

was trying to add onto yours. canada can't expect to get off 44 shots and not get MB hung out to dry.

All the Canadiens are losing their s.hit. They all want to see Luongo start the next game. It's very comical.

[The Bid]

Marty played as poorly as he could have. Hard to yank him in favor of Loungo, but another game like that and its over.

Germany is in trouble 96-1 may be a little light bob. Over under on Canada is 100

Team USA is probably the fourth best team talent wise in the tournament. Canada and the Russians, and the Sweds are probably better but they are pansies. If they get bronze they did well, silver will be unreal. Gold I think is out of the question after watching them play yesterday. Shoulda been 7-1

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Marty played as poor as he could have. Hard to yank him in favor of Loungo but another game like that and thats it.

Germany is in trouble

Team USA is probably the fourth best team talent wise in the tournament. Canada and the Russians, and the Sweds are probably better but they are pansies. If they get bronze they did well, silver will be unreal. Gold I think is out of the question after watching them play yesterday. Shoulda been 7-1

After another game, there might not be a chance to make a change. I really don't know how you can pin 2 deflection goals on him. At some point you have to blame a few of the offensive guys for not finishing. There were a couple of breaks and most notably Nash missing a wide open net. Also, Canada should probably tip their hats to Miller who was just amazing. Sometimes you just run into a hot goalie and that's what happened last night.

I agree with you assesment of the US talent wise. Any medal would be a huge accomplishment (especially if Canada ends up off the board). You would think that they just don't have the firepower to stay up with those other teams, but like I said a hot goalie can carry you a far way. I'm looking foward to their next game, hopefully they will medal.

[The Bid]

I thought the US looked extremely slow. If Tim Thomas played, any other goalie for that matter they get waxed. For the record I like Tim Thomas but that was a lot of shots to face.

I couldn't believe Nash missed that open net, I don't know how he did it. He shot the puck directly into Miller.

To me Canada looked like they were on a powerplay whenever the Heatly line was on the ice. Team usa was putting no pressure on the puck with that particular line. Anytime that line was on the ice I was holding my breath. Not only did they keep steady pressure on the US, the US couldn't even gain the line against them.

Team USA needs to fix that powerplay, and quick. They had a very difficult time establishing any kind of flow in the offensive zone. WHen they did they forced everything and it was quickly cleared.

As for pinning goals on Broduer....To me hes just much better than that. He got caught out of position twice, both times diving, or lunging at the puck. I don't know if hes gotten caught twice like that in his entire career. Not that I can remember.

I also thought team USA looked lost in their defensive zone. Their D is big and slow and thats not going to cut it unless Miller continues to play like the best to ever draw a breath

[GBBob]

Anyone watch the Sweden-Fin game? Haven't had a chance to read about it yet.

[The Bid]

Watched the entire game. Sweden dominated them. Kiprosoff played well or it would have been 100 to zero. I had Finland picked to do something, after that they are out of the equation. I was impressed with the Swiss against America, and against the Canadians. They looked much better than Finland

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I thought the US looked extremely slow. If Tim Thomas played, any other goalie for that matter they get waxed. For the record I like Tim Thomas but that was a lot of shots to face.

I couldn't believe Nash missed that open net, I don't know how he did it. He shot the puck directly into Miller.
To me Canada looked like they were on a powerplay whenever the Heatly line was on the ice. Team usa was putting no pressure on the puck with that particular line. Anytime that line was on the ice I was holding my breath. Not only did they keep steady pressure on the US, the US couldn't even gain the line against them.

Team USA needs to fix that powerplay, and quick. They had a very difficult time establishing any kind of flow in the offensive zone. WHen they did they forced everything and it was quickly cleared.

As for pinning goals on Broduer....To me hes just much better than that. He got caught out of position twice, both times diving, or lunging at the puck. I don't know if hes gotten caught twice like that in his entire career. Not that I can remember.

I also thought team USA looked lost in their defensive zone. Their D is big and slow and thats not going to cut it unless Miller continues to play like the best to ever draw a breath

Left handed shot.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know about that, 2 of the goals were deflected in and one was off a mad scramble in front (that Marty actually created). And this comes from a person who despises Marty. I would love nothing more then for Babcock to do the unthinkable and put Luongo in. You would think that it would be the ultimate slap in the face for the guy who might go down as the greatest ever (as painful as it is for me to say).
I do think that since he is allowed to handle the puck more (because of olympic rules), actually hurts him because it's something he doesn't get to do anymore and he is excellent at it. But he does it so much that, it seemed last night he was always scrambling trying to get back into position and I believe it cost him on at least one goal.
I not a big Emrick fan either, but I think him and Eddie O did a good job last night. I enjoyed the game/telecast very much (but the outcome probably had a big thing to do with that). Also for the most part last night except for the late penalty against the U.S., the refs did a good job letting them play.

i'd be SHOCKED if they ride marty from here on out. Its Luigi's net to lose now, and if they lose its over. Marty was his usual self last night, overhandled the puck, and his swat out of mid air cost him a goal against singled handley. I'm sure Yzermen is pissing in babcock's ear about the switch, HOF or not, the guy is not as sharp as he once was, and letting him play out of pride and the fact that this is gonna be his last olympics is gonna cost the canadian a chance to medal. that and the fact that they have a 2nd year guy like drew doughty out there over the likes of robyn regehr, jay bouwmeester, and mike green.

-bt-

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i'd be SHOCKED if they ride marty from here on out. Its Luigi's net to lose now, and if they lose its over. Marty was his usual self last night, overhandled the puck, and his swat out of mid air cost him a goal against singled handley. I'm sure Yzermen is pissing in babcock's ear about the switch, HOF or not, the guy is not as sharp as he once was, and letting him play out of pride and the fact that this is gonna be his last olympics is gonna cost the canadian a chance to medal. that and the fact that they have a 2nd year guy like drew doughty out there over the likes of robyn regehr, jay bouwmeester, and mike green.

-bt-

Reguardless, Babcock is in a no win situation. Anything less than a gold on home soil would be considered a dissapointment anyway. But you would think that Yzerman would have shouldered most of the blame. Now there is a major decision that has to be made and all of Canada will second guess and look to hang Babcock if they fall short of the Gold. Personally I would stay with Marty.

Funny you mention Doughty. I really like the kid, but is it me or did it seem he was on the ice the entire game (especially in the 3rd period)?