Rudy Rodriguez

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

While he is winning at a sick rate, the horses aren't exactly improving insanely a la Marty Wolfson.

This is false. Aegean Breeze was beaten 34 1/2, 42 3/4 and 27 lengths in her last three races. Transferred to Rudy and won by 4 at 21-1 under mild urging. Wicked Climb, a total mediocrity with Contessa has now run back-to-back huge races for Rudy, setting a vicious pace two back and still winning by 10 3/4, stepping right up and winning a statebred N2X by 5 3/4 after that. Metulla had run Beyers of 58, 59, 61, 58 and 60 in his last five starts and won a pretty strong open $7,500 claimer at BEL first time Rudy on Thursday. West Coast Flier made an 18-point Beyer jump from Enrique Arroyo to Rudy. Temecula Creek (albeit with some good back form) claimed from Jacobson for $7,500 from a race where he ran a 37 Beyer, then returned to win back-to-back starter allowances with 90+ Beyers for Rudy. Rocketing Returns made a 15-point Beyer jump for Rudy and won a starter allowance off a $12,500 claim from Seth Benzel.

This is just from horses entered in the past two weeks. He doesn't have the stakes horses that Wolfson had yet, but he's doing some magical things.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Scav

Was just throwing out the possiblity and I know it is wild and has a 1% chance of being true. But, Dutrow can't get caught again without getting major public backlash.

He is claiming horses and moving them up in class and dominating, I am most interested in the repeat efforts and see how long they actually hold their form. I am a selective follower of the NYRA. I mess around with Toga and some Belmont turf races, so the only reason I have taken notice is someone mentioned it to me about 6 weeks ago, and paid attention since.

More like .000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.

You really think Dutrow being caught again will change what the public thinks of him ? I don't. Like Pletcher,Assmussen,O'Neil, Mullins, and other trainers that have had success he has used an "edge" to win. An illegal one. These guys continually get caught...get a slap on the wrist....and continue to do what they do. I don't think for one second Rick Dutrow is concerned about any public backlash about getting caught again. Assmussen got caught again recently and nothing has changed....


If anything there are gonna be some great betting opportunities as Rudy's horses are getting hammered at the windows. He aint gonna win em all which is gonna lead to some great values on other horses.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Funny coming form the guy who uses one of the biggest cheating families in the game as his trainer.

While Dutrow obviously has a past.....the sh#t he does is nothing like the cr#p Stephanie Beattie and the rest of that demented clan do. The fact that she got that cripple you had to win a few races is one of the Seven Wonders of the World.

Beattie and friends are brilliant trainers SHAME ON YOU.. 30 horses from the OBS june sale sold between 30 and 300k ....Komodo out earned all but two and sold for under 25k..Let's just say HELLO BEATTIE. Look forward to TrippedNtrapped coming to a Pa. track in 12 months with Sandee at the helm. These Beattie's are trainers they understand a horse's biology. They are into holistic love.

[the_fat_man]

Hard to believe there's debate whether this dude is juicing.

Thanks to all the skeptics for being a part of the betting pubic. I'm sure your astuteness transfers over real well when it comes to picking winners.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is false. Aegean Breeze was beaten 34 1/2, 42 3/4 and 27 lengths in her last three races. Transferred to Rudy and won by 4 at 21-1 under mild urging. Wicked Climb, a total mediocrity with Contessa has now run back-to-back huge races for Rudy, setting a vicious pace two back and still winning by 10 3/4, stepping right up and winning a statebred N2X by 5 3/4 after that. Metulla had run Beyers of 58, 59, 61, 58 and 60 in his last five starts and won a pretty strong open $7,500 claimer at BEL first time Rudy on Thursday. West Coast Flier made an 18-point Beyer jump from Enrique Arroyo to Rudy. Temecula Creek (albeit with some good back form) claimed from Jacobson for $7,500 from a race where he ran a 37 Beyer, then returned to win back-to-back starter allowances with 90+ Beyers for Rudy. Rocketing Returns made a 15-point Beyer jump for Rudy and won a starter allowance off a $12,500 claim from Seth Benzel.

This is just from horses entered in the past two weeks. He doesn't have the stakes horses that Wolfson had yet, but he's doing some magical things.

Look at some of the trainers he is claiming from. Contessa is having a god awful meet. Enrique Arroyo? Another beaut.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Hard to believe there's debate whether this dude is juicing.

Thanks to all the skeptics for being a part of the betting pubic. I'm sure your astuteness transfers over real well when it comes to picking winners.

I thought you had me on IGGY ?

If you read what I posted earlier you would see that his insane win % is not gonna keep up and will lead to ridiculous horses being overbet, leading to great values on other horses.

Picking winners huh ? I read where you said your bankroll took a major hit......shocking

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Beattie and friends are brilliant trainers SHAME ON YOU.. 30 horses from the OBS june sale sold between 30 and 300k ....Komodo out earned all but two and sold for under 25k..Let's just say HELLO BEATTIE. Look forward to TrippedNtrapped coming to a Pa. track in 12 months with Sandee at the helm. These Beattie's are trainers they understand a horse's biology. They are into holistic love.

I see you are on your 2nd bottle of Saphire tonight. Nice.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I see you are on your 2nd bottle of Saphire tonight. Nice.

This is why when I do the Blue Martini a leave with Ms Martini you troll..lol

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Look at some of the trainers he is claiming from. Contessa is having a god awful meet. Enrique Arroyo? Another beaut.

Explain Aegean Breeze. Metulla. Rocketing Returns. Temecula Creek. Jacobson was giving away that horse and he ran like it, then he turns around like nothing happened and wins back-to-back stakes quality starter allowances.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Explain Aegean Breeze. Metulla. Rocketing Returns. Temecula Creek. Jacobson was giving away that horse and he ran like it, then he turns around like nothing happened and wins back-to-back stakes quality starter allowances.

Jacobsen is a fn butcher

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Beattie and friends are brilliant trainers SHAME ON YOU.. 30 horses from the OBS june sale sold between 30 and 300k ....Komodo out earned all but two and sold for under 25k..Let's just say HELLO BEATTIE. Look forward to TrippedNtrapped coming to a Pa. track in 12 months with Sandee at the helm. These Beattie's are trainers they understand a horse's biology. They are into holistic love.

LOL

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

LOL

Now you know why chix dig me

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Jacobsen is a fn butcher

FFS, look at Aegean Breeze and Metulla's PP's before their wins. Anybody who can't see that Rudy is juicing is a rube.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

FFS, look at Aegean Breeze and Metulla's PP's before their wins. Anybody who can't see that Rudy is juicing is a rube.

Pleeeaasssee

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Let's call a spade a spade the guy obviously recognizes what is bothering a horse. Once he tells the vet what's up its up to the vet to fix the problem until he gets a positive which many dont I am 2 thumbs up

How's Ness been doing? He seems like he's all over the east coast these days...I guess his services are in demand.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

How's Ness been doing? He seems like he's all over the east coast these days...I guess his services are in demand.

Ness is going to be just fine. He is a real trainer not a JO with a license

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Explain Aegean Breeze. Metulla. Rocketing Returns. Temecula Creek. Jacobson was giving away that horse and he ran like it, then he turns around like nothing happened and wins back-to-back stakes quality starter allowances.

i think it might be a little bit of both. he might have found some sort of an advantage. but, he is improving off of some less than stellar trainers. metulla ran a huge race for that level. but for arguements sake lets say rudy is a very talented trainer. is it hard to believe a horse will run an improved race after getting out of neal terracianos barn?

rocketing returns fell into a paceless race. he got a heads up ride from lezcano and took advantage of it.

i cant explain aegean breeze although she ran back to her prior form today. look at what steve asmussen is doing with the horses he has that enrique arroyo used to train.

im not saying hes not doing anything. but i think its a combonation of things and among them is being a talented horseman.

He's the horse whisperer.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Now you know why chix dig me

Stop it

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

Stop it

What? Are you the only guy who goes commando?