Hypothetical Pick-3

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Midnight Lute might be the best sprinter EVER.
I totally agree about Speightstown though, I might have jumped the gun.

ever??? this might come as a surprise but there was horse racing prior to 2003. midnight lute was very good, but best sprinter ever? not even close.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

ever??? this might come as a surprise but there was horse racing prior to 2003. midnight lute was very good, but best sprinter ever? not even close.

His triple of the Forgo, and 2 Breeders Cup sprint wins are as good as it gets.
On fast, sloppy and synthetics...
If I am wrong, its not by much... and I said "might be the best ever" not that he is

[GBBob]

Can't redboard this

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

His triple of the Forgo, and 2 Breeders Cup sprint wins are as good as it gets.
On fast, sloppy and synthetics...
If I am wrong, its not by much... and I said "might be the best ever" not that he is

hes not even close to being the best sprinter ever. where would a horse like artax rank on your all time best sprinters list?

[Roc525]

5,9/2,4,5,7/4,6,8

[ateamstupid]

5,7,9 / 1,2,6 / 2,3,4

1/2/3

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

hes not even close to being the best sprinter ever. where would a horse like artax rank on your all time best sprinters list?

Behind Groovy and Phone Trick

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Behind Groovy and Phone Trick

yep. i was using him as an example because he was another horse who had a few monster races. no one is going to call him maybe the best sprinter ever.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

yep. i was using him as an example because he was another horse who had a few monster races. no one is going to call him maybe the best sprinter ever.

Maybe Paragallo will

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

9/1,4,7/all

I'm a little surprised that you wouldn't feel comfortable tossing Lost in the Fog. For me, he might be the easiest toss of the 27 entries.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Race-1: 8f - Dirt

1) Commentator
2) Congaree
3) Criminal Type
4) Discreet Cat
5) Ghostzapper
6) Gulch
7) Holy Bull
8) Rubiano
9) Spectacular Bid

Race-2: 12f - Dirt

1) Affirmed
2) A.P Indy
3) Creme Fraiche
4) Easy Goer
5) John Henry
6) Point Given
7) Risen Star
8) Slew o Gold
9) Temperence Hill

Race-3: 6f - Dirt

1) Benny the Bull
2) Fabulous Strike
3) Housebuster
4) Kona Gold
5) Lost in the Fog
6) Midnight Lute
7) Orientate
8) Speightstown
9) Xtra Heat

My 5-beer ticket(s):

2,4,5,7,9 / 1 / 3,4,7
&
2,4,5,7,9 / 1,4,7 / 4

[DaTruth]

Congaree, Bull, Bid // Goer, Star // Housebuster, Lute.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

yep. i was using him as an example because he was another horse who had a few monster races. no one is going to call him maybe the best sprinter ever.

Any race ML would be in vs a group of "the best ever" would set up for his style, I have no doubt in my mind he would be competitive with all of these.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Any race ML would be in vs a group of "the best ever" would set up for his style, I have no doubt in my mind he would be competitive with all of these.

he probably would be competitive vs the horses listed. still doesn't make him maybe the best sprinter ever, or even close. he ran one huge race in the forego. his breeders cup wins were okay, but nothing great and its not like he beat any great horses. take a look at the horses cannon shell mentioned and what they accomplished. look at a horse like housebuster. i could name a dozen more.

he was a nice horse who was compromised because he was so big. he had gate issues due to his size. but lets be a little realistic about him.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by miraja2

It is been awhile since we've had hypo races, so I thought I'd throw a few together because certain other discussions in the Horse Racing universe have grown a bit....umm....tiresome. The criteria I used for the fields was just horses born in 1975 or later. Also, I am not claiming that the nine horses I included in each field are the BEST possible choices. In fact, in a couple of cases I put in horses that I don't personally believe to be among the top-9, simply because I thought their inclusion might make for a more entertaining discusion.
So.....how would you guys play these races? If you had to play a Pick-3 here, what would the ticket look like? etc.

Belmont Park - Fast track - (assume all horses are in good form, have their regular jock, etc.)

Race-1: 8f - Dirt

1) Commentator
2) Congaree
3) Criminal Type
4) Discreet Cat
5) Ghostzapper
6) Gulch
7) Holy Bull
8) Rubiano
9) Spectacular Bid

Race-2: 12f - Dirt

1) Affirmed
2) A.P Indy
3) Creme Fraiche
4) Easy Goer
5) John Henry
6) Point Given
7) Risen Star
8) Slew o Gold
9) Temperence Hill

Race-3: 6f - Dirt

1) Benny the Bull
2) Fabulous Strike
3) Housebuster
4) Kona Gold
5) Lost in the Fog
6) Midnight Lute
7) Orientate
8) Speightstown
9) Xtra Heat

leg 1, rahy/cees tizzy/melair
leg 2, greinton
leg 3, phone trick, on the line, lit de justice

ah, what the heck, put the bid in any of the races.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

he was a nice horse who was compromised because he was so big. he had gate issues due to his size. but lets be a little realistic about him.

He had breathing issues.

Baffert maintained all along that he was cut out to be a router and that without the breathing issue, he'd have been an unstoppable force going long.

[Indian Charlie]

I'd probably have used Ack Ack in any of those 3 spots. At least the 8 and 6f ones anyways.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He had breathing issues.

Baffert maintained all along that he was cut out to be a router and that without the breathing issue, he'd have been an unstoppable force going long.

he was also huge and had trouble in the gate because he was so big. but you are right, he had serious breathing issues. you clearly have followed the sport for many years and have seen some good ones. was midnight lute one of, if not the best sprinters ever?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Behind Groovy and Phone Trick

Good point. A bit before my time, but didn't Groovy run some out-of-this world speed figs?