Vaccines are NOT safe for children

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I love love love this sort of counter argument that proponents of vaccines use.

"Well, I can't dispute what he's saying with real fact, so lets mock him and make him look like a nut case".

In your case however, clearly that stuff they are putting in vaccines to make people dumber seems to have worked.

Nice, huh?

Go take an Immunology 101 course and get back to me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The evidence for a conspiracy is quite clear. We have been doing vaccinations for many years -- the polio vaccine in 1952 is one famous example. Yet a lot of people have died since 1952.

In fact, 1% of the population on average dies every year! That's 3,000,000 people in America alone.

Aliens. Roswell, New Mexico. The doubters have no facts to disprove the aliens have caused this.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I myself am fully immersed in the thimerisol topic, .

Then at least spell it correctly, okay?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Aliens. Roswell, New Mexico. The doubters have no facts to disprove the aliens have caused this.

Yeah, it's like "Just because I'm paranoid, that doesn't mean that they aren't all out to get me."

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, people that insist upon evidence-based science really can put a kink into a good theory

I can bury you in science based proof.

Not make believe scientific studies funded by pharma.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Go take an Immunology 101 course and get back to me.

Already done.

Take off the blinders and do research yourself, instead of taking for gospel everything you are taught.

Then get back to me.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then at least spell it correctly, okay?

Exactly.

If that's the best you can do to dispute what I'm saying, thank you.

Sorry for the early morning typo there.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I can bury you in science based proof.
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Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one

Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

Alas, no. Only the true believers can see the truth in this one

No, I cannot bury you with scientific proof?

Or no, as in, "No no no no no! I will not hear you!" type of no?

Or no, as in "If he's right, that means everything I believe and everything I've been educated in is a lie" type of no?

Or no, as in "if I keep using icons in my posts, that will prove that all beliefs are just!"

Or no, as in "I no longer have the capacity to think for myself"?

Or is there some other meaning I'm not getting?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

Yeah. Industrial waste by-product turned rat poison turned dental aid.

Only in America.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah. Industrial waste by-product turned rat poison turned dental aid.

Only in America.

so I shouldnt pay extra for a flouride rinse at the dentist twice a year?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so I shouldnt pay extra for a flouride rinse at the dentist twice a year?

Personal preference, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even know if that's the same fluoride that's used in municipal water supplies, though I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Which, by the way, isn't even fluoride.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No, I cannot bury you with scientific proof?

Or no, as in, "No no no no no! I will not hear you!" type of no?

Or no, as in "If he's right, that means everything I believe and everything I've been educated in is a lie" type of no?

Or no, as in "if I keep using icons in my posts, that will prove that all beliefs are just!"

Or no, as in "I no longer have the capacity to think for myself"?

Or is there some other meaning I'm not getting?

No, as in the scientific evidence simply is not there. Just conspiracy theories and fear.

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

You're in the thin, small minority on this one. You hang in there.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Oh yeah, flouride worked SO well for us didn't it!

You can see the conspiracy theories better when your water is flouridated

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, as in the scientific evidence simply is not there. Just conspiracy theories and fear.

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

You're in the thin, small minority on this one. You hang in there.

You really are as bad as everyone says you are. I didn't believe it, but it's true.

Oh well.

I guess those people who got injected and had their life permanently made worse, that was just imagined.

I suppose I could also give you real data as to how much mercury is in vaccines, as well as real data showing the direct correlation between the amount of vaccines kids get to the rise in autism.

I don't suppose it means anything to you that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are nearly identical to those of autism?

No, of course not.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

You say you have science-based proof, yet the vast majority of the scientific world has, continues to, reject your "proofs" as inadequate and false in the face of overwhelming and clear evidence to the contrary.

I forgot to mention. Most of the 'world' has outlawed the use of this preservative. So, again, you are in the overwhelming minority.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You really are as bad as everyone says you are. I didn't believe it, but it's true.

Oh well.

I guess those people who got injected and had their life permanently made worse, that was just imagined.

I suppose I could also give you real data as to how much mercury is in vaccines, as well as real data showing the direct correlation between the amount of vaccines kids get to the rise in autism.

I don't suppose it means anything to you that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are nearly identical to those of autism?

No, of course not.

Well, actually, yes, yes it does. Unlike you, I actually vaccinate living creatures every day, and I am responsible for what subsequently happens to them over the course of their lifetimes. Of course it matters to me.

Alot more, I imagine, than to a poster on an internet list who's thoroughly researched "scientific" starting off point was, "vaccines don't work".

I have obviously arrived at a far different conclusion that you have regarding the subject.

Of course, that difference of opinion means, to you, that I'm "as bad as everyone says I am".

Which, sadly, demonstrates the depth and approach of your scientific view of the subject matter.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I forgot to mention. Most of the 'world' has outlawed the use of this preservative. So, again, you are in the overwhelming minority.

You don't apparently know how long thimerosol has been out of the US vaccination market, huh?

BTW - I don't use thimerosol. So I don't know what "overwhelming minority" you think I am in. Just saying stuff sorta makes you look even crazier than the "anti-vaccination dude" meme you're currently going with.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

You don't apparently know how long thimerosol has been out of the US vaccination market, huh?

BTW - I don't use thimerosol. So I don't know what "overwhelming minority" you think I am in. Just saying stuff sorta makes you look even crazier than the "anti-vaccination dude" meme you're currently going with.

Unless it went off the market today and I didn't read about it, it is still used.

As a matter of fact, some of the childhood vaccines that were being advertised as being thimerosol free, did indeed still have it in them. FACT.

I have a serious question for you, no sarcasm intended. Why were they using this stuff as a preservative in the first place? I mean it, really, why were they using it?