Beck Rally - 500000 attendence

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by otisotisotis

joey,
Obama is just another in the perpetual line of misleaders that include the Bushes, Clinton, and Reagan.
Banks and Business will never be consumed by debt owed to anyone. They are already in bed with the Red Dragon!
Just think, when good, decent manufacturing jobs where taken away for the middle/lower middle class and sent to the Asain, slave labor camps - who made it happen? Banks and Big Business.
And to sell the American public on the idea, they said the 'U.S. worker demands to much money and we can't keep prices low,' so they moved overseas. And quess what? Prices didn't go lower, they didn't even stay the same, because the big dogs on top were busy raking in even more cashola.

'100 years of liberalism', or 20 years of Reaganomics - it's all the same. Liberals, conservatives, etc.. these are just propagandic labels that have been forced down your throat to keep you devisive to one another, so that you don't see what they do behind your back.
You have been sold a bastardized version of the 'American Dream'. They give you a little crumb of the pie and convince you that you are satiated and content, while they go behind and take all of the cherries for themselves.

Greed is the reason we have this situation today.The powerful only crave one thing- more power!

'Obama and others of his ilk' - This includes all politicians. They are tools, and try only to be career tools for the money grab. They do not care about you, only your vote. And they will not allow this country to return to any semblence of the one you have been sold your entire life, that genie left the bottle a long time ago and took sovreignty, and all the cherries, with it.

Wow, I thought I was cynical.

How can you compare the 100 years of liberalism and 20 years of "Reaganomics" as equivalent? The fact remains that during 1982-1989, receipts of revenue to the U.S. government tripled. That was in spite of lowering the top marginal rate from 70 percent down to 28 percent. People took the money they were sheltering, invested it, made profits which they paid some portion of as taxes. The economy was booming. If we had that performance now, the debt would be retired in a reasonable amount of time.

But what else happened? The Democrat-controlled Congress, where all spending must originate, outspent the revenue, again -- the tripled revenue, to still spend us into a deficit. Add up enough deficits, and you get a huge debt like today. Now there were other expenses too -- the Apollo program, the Manhattan Project and all the World War II costs -- they were big tag items too.

No one will dispute that politicians of both, or all, political stripes desire more and more power. That's universal around the world. But we were given a limited government with a Constitution, separation of powers, checks and balances, and the fundamental principle that any powers not explicitly written in that constitution are reserved to the people -- us.

And you're correct about big business moving jobs overseas, but if they are taxed or regulated too much, isn't that what they would have to do to survive? Why is nothing made here anymore? Wouldn't they see it as better to make goods here, with all other things being equal, because the transportation costs and delays in getting to the biggest marketplace in the world -- again, us, would be minimized. But they had to move those jobs because of taxes, regulations, over-the-top union demands, and the like. And let me be quick to add: unions are necessary also because if corporations were unchecked, that's no good either.

Product prices were never the driver on the move overseas, because the price of any commodity is driven by "whatever the market will bear" in the form of consumer spending. But profits are gross revenue minus expenses, and every corporation needs profit to survive. So the workers' wages is just one portion of those expenses -- it's not necessarily the reason they moved the jobs -- government regulations also cost money.

And when the tax laws are written to give foreign corporations tax breaks, domestic corporations become foreign ones. Tax them all equally and that goes away.

There's no such thing as a perfect solution, but I think we can do better than the situation we have now.

Originally Posted by jms62

Meanwhile

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11135197

I don't see it lasting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Pjo0WjBcs

Don't know why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg

We're in a lot of trouble in this country. Left, right it doesn't matter. There has been an infestation of stupidity and it's getting worse.

A little off topic, but where does one find an American Flag dress shirt?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

We're in a lot of trouble in this country. Left, right it doesn't matter. There has been an infestation of stupidity and it's getting worse.

A little off topic, but where does one find an American Flag dress shirt?

[Riot]

National Archives: No, Beck didn't hold the original of Washington's first inaugural address
September 01, 2010 11:34 am ET by Matt Gertz

At one point during his rally on Saturday, Glenn Beck claimed, "I have been going to Mount Vernon. I went to the National Archives and I held the first inaugural address written in his own hand by George Washington."

But according to the National Archives, Beck's claim that he held Washington's original inaugural address just isn't true.

Beck did receive a special VIP tour of the archives, arranged by an as-yet unidentified member of Congress. During that tour, he did get a peek inside the "legislative vault," which isn't open to ordinary visitors.

But Archives spokeswoman Susan Cooper insists that Beck didn't lay a finger on any precious documents, much less George Washington's inaugural address. That would be a major violation of policy. "Those kinds of treasures are only handled by specially trained archival staff," she explains.

During the same speech, Beck urged his audience, "Tell the truth. America is crying out for truth."

- Media Matters

semantics.

[Riot]

Beck's the new evangelical on the block. Mormons and Christians hating together. Mitt has a chance.

Any republican with a pulse has a chance.

[otisotisotis]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg

wow. If you lose your manufacturing job, the propaganda business is booming...
btw, who do we need to take our country back from again, the Mongols ?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by otisotisotis

btw, who do we need to take our country back from again, the Mongols ?

That's not too far off since the Mongols are the ancestors of our current financiers: the Communist Chinese.

[otisotisotis]

Originally Posted by joeydb

That's not too far off since the Mongols are the ancestors of our current financiers: the Communist Chinese.

lol!

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Any republican with a pulse has a chance.

Name 3 having one.

Originally Posted by clyde

Name 3 having one.

Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul, and Nascar

[clyde]

Good job!!

[Riot]

Meanwhile, today in Colorado GOP-land, we await word from looney Tom Tancredo, one of the Tea Parties, and the GOP primary winner on which loser will be left standing to run for Governor ....

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Meanwhile, today in Colorado GOP-land, we await word from looney Tom Tancredo, one of the Tea Parties, and the GOP primary winner on which loser will be left standing to run for Governor ....

Go Tancredo!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Go Tancredo!!

Yeah, right back to the 18th century.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, right back to the 18th century.

^^^^ Doesn't know what a fetlock is.