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Old 10-16-2010, 04:43 PM
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Reggane (GB)/Gallic Star (IRE)/Akarlina (FR) all look enticing.
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:47 PM
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Reggane (GB)/Gallic Star (IRE)/Akarlina (FR) all look enticing.
Yeah I really like this one.

Channon wouldn't send her for no reason...

Posted my tri box, she's my win bet.

Good luck!
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:50 PM
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I had the exacta!!!!!!!!! sweet enjoy the next race
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:59 PM
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Yeah I really like this one.

Channon wouldn't send her for no reason...

Posted my tri box, she's my win bet.

Good luck!
I like her also, especially at her odds. Take a look at Reggane, she looks like a million bucks. G'luck!
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:01 PM
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I like her also, especially at her odds. Take a look at Reggane, she looks like a million bucks. G'luck!
Isn't that the truth, she really looks sharp. I think she'll run a big one.

Good luck!

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Old 10-16-2010, 05:02 PM
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Isn't that the truth, she really looks sharp. I think she'll run a big one.

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Hope we are right, goodluck!
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:07 PM
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I like her also, especially at her odds. Take a look at Reggane, she looks like a million bucks. G'luck!


Nice!
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:07 PM
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Isn't that the truth, she really looks sharp. I think she'll run a big one.

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You too.
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:43 PM
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This is silly, Mores Wells looks alot better than a 19/1 shot in here. Certainly better than some that are at lower odds. Worth a bet...
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:52 PM
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Thanks, Alan, for f@^&%#!* me out of $3500. Brilliant ride.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:36 PM
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Thanks, Alan, for f@^&%#!* me out of $3500. Brilliant ride.
That was a disgraceful decision on his part. Hope he goes to the Breeders Cup
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:03 PM
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Thanks, Alan, for f@^&%#!* me out of $3500. Brilliant ride.
Wasn't worth nearly as much to me, and I hate to complain about jockeys' rides, but that was dreadful. He was so much the best.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:17 PM
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I'm surprised more people didn't just box the Euros, although I agree that Al Khali was given a poor ride.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:27 PM
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His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:29 PM
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His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.

Al Khali a horse you and others have insulted me for chasing and now he is going to beat the ARC winner?

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Old 10-16-2010, 10:32 PM
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Arc winners are probably the worst BC bets of all.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:36 PM
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His running line was 6-8-8-9-4 - dead last at the top of the stretch - and he came home in :23.54. I'm sure his running line looks excellent on the Fat Charts. He has more speed than that - there was no reason to be that far back. He was pulling and full of horse on the backstretch, but Alan had to strangle him. I'm all for saving ground, but this horse is so big that it's just not going to work with him. He's always going to find traffic if you don't give him a lot of room to run. I think the bonehead ride Kent gave him two-back has them over-adjusting with him. The same overly patient, jam him in between horses until the last possible second ride almost got him beat last time too.

I've been experiencing a ridiculous cold streak the last few weeks (bad opinions, not bad luck), and to be right for once and not get rewarded (had the other two exactas) is very frustrating. Played 2,10 w/ ALL w/ 5 in Pk3s and then 2,10 w/ 5 horses (winner was the longest price of them) w/ 5. Just gross. I guess that's what I get for singling in a race like that, but I was against all the Euros and thought this would be Al Khali's breakout race.

Obviously I'm going to bet him big time in the BC, but I'm kind of wondering if he's the type of horse that will always end up in trouble. Also not sure a course like Churchill favors him like Woodbine or Belmont does.
Give Al Khali Mores Wells' trip and he wins for fun. Mores Wells got an incredible ride.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:40 PM
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Arc winners are probably the worst BC bets of all.
In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:53 PM
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In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.
Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)
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Old 10-16-2010, 11:30 PM
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Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)
Winners haven't done well, though Trempolino was photoed by the mighty Theatrical, but runners up are a different story. The Aga Khan horse coming over will drown the likes of Al Khali.

I feel your pain, and he probably should have won today, but the BC field will be much tougher. Do you even think he'll run?

I was surprised Garcia was back aboard after last time. I watched that race with Mott. I can't believe he rode him back.
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