Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:29 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOREHOOF View Post
O.K. How about the Tea Party? Judge any of that by the actions of a few?
How about the Democrats? Do you judge any of that by the actions of a few? How about blacks? Jews? Gays? Women? Catholics?
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:29 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
How do you analyze something without giving an opinion?

What has been quoted is a general rule, not specific to Williams contract.

His bosses are idiots who have already retracted that label
They follow the teachings of a butcher, and glorify him. That's a fact. Dispute it? You can't. He was a butcher, and they follow his teachings, and glorify him. If it scares Juan, then they get that B word out (like it's their brush, or comb.) One definition of Bigot is: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. That definition fits Liberals a lot better than it fits the relatively moderate Juan Williams.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:32 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants View Post
The Psychiatrist comment was worse than anything he said. She holds the Politically Correct opinion, so poor Juan must be crazy. He's just not quite Liberal enough I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:34 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Face it - many in America are sick of prejudice and bigotry, and quite willing to point fingers and call it out for exactly what it is.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:34 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".
They do follow the teachings of a butcher. Do you claim they don't? Just because they all don't kill doesn't mean they're against killing those that try to leave the religion.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:36 PM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,292
Default

Reading Riot's gibberish is enough to turn me into a conservative...almost.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:36 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
They do follow the teachings of a butcher. Do you claim they don't?
Yes, exactly. I know they don't. I don't call Mohammad a butcher. You feel free to continue.
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:45 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
How about the Democrats? Do you judge any of that by the actions of a few? How about blacks? Jews? Gays? Women? Catholics?
Democrats? Actions of the many?
Blacks? I love black people.
Jews? That's borderline hate speech. God Bless Israel.
Gays? It's Two Thousand and frikkin Ten. I have Gay friends. Some are against Gay Marriage.
Women? I love women.
Catholics? I believe every word. What do you have against Catholics?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10-21-2010, 06:48 PM
Riot's Avatar
Riot Riot is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,153
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOREHOOF View Post
Democrats? Actions of the many?
Blacks? I love black people.
Jews? That's borderline hate speech. God Bless Israel.
Gays? It's Two Thousand and frikkin Ten. I have Gay friends. Some are against Gay Marriage.
Women? I love women.
Catholics? I believe every word. What do you have against Catholics?
I have nothing against any of the above. Or Muslims. You?
__________________
"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:00 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
I have nothing against any of the above. Or Muslims. You?
Muslims in general? Or Muslims in particular?
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:04 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Yes, exactly. I know they don't. I don't call Mohammad a butcher. You feel free to continue.
He butchered many people, honey. You really gunna dispute that? You're smarter than that.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:08 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOREHOOF View Post
Muslims in general? Or Muslims in particular?
This didn't really get any Media play. It was lightly reported on. Its pretty long but you will get the jist after a few pages. Scuds, you must have heard about this report. Why this gets ignored is beyond me.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...2009142010.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:19 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

When they asked the so called Times Square "Attempted Bomber" about taking his United States of America Citizen Oath, He said " I didn't mean it". So, Riot, keep believing everything you are told about Islam by the Govt. run politically correct mainstream media.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:20 PM
slotdirt's Avatar
slotdirt slotdirt is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,894
Default

I thought this was rather interesting. I listen to NPR every morning, or at least I have, and have always found her to be bland, uninformative, and factually incorrect. Turns out she's also a giant a-hole.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...html#read-more
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:32 PM
SCUDSBROTHER's Avatar
SCUDSBROTHER SCUDSBROTHER is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: L.A.
Posts: 11,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOREHOOF View Post
When they asked the so called Times Square "Attempted Bomber" about taking his United States of America Citizen Oath, He said " I didn't mean it". So, Riot, keep believing everything you are told about Islam by the Govt. run politically correct mainstream media.

Their prophet said it's o.k. to lie to non-believers (if it helps Islam.)
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:44 PM
SOREHOOF's Avatar
SOREHOOF SOREHOOF is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the United Socialist States of Chinese America
Posts: 1,501
Default

There is a clash of civilizations going on right now. The fact that people are blind to that fact doesn't change the truth of that fact.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 10-21-2010, 07:58 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".
If you listen to the comments in the context of the conversation its painfully obvious that he isnt condemning anyone. He was simply expressing the fear he personally felt. You are projecting on his words. Expressing his own honestly felt feelings is candor.

You want the world to be so black and white, politically correct that you can't see the difference between a guy expressing his own personal fears and a blanket condemnation. The fact is that everyone of us knows that if a suspect looking person wearing muslim clothing gets on a plane with us, the thought crosses our minds. You may not admit it but you know it is true. Doesn't make you a bigot or racist or anything of the sort. It simply makes you human.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10-21-2010, 08:01 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
How do you know Williams didn't want to deliberately violate, and thus terminate, his contract, so he can sign a 2-million dollar deal elsewhere? I'm sure if he feels he was unjustly fired, he'll contest it (after all, there is an employment contract)

And I am quoting the public comments from NPR on Williams contract, not some "general rule".
I don't know what Williams motives were but I have a hard time believing after reading the background that NPR wouldn't have released him from his contract had he asked to leave.

The public comments are referring to a general rule.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER View Post
One definition of Bigot is: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. That definition fits Liberals a lot better than it fits the relatively moderate Juan Williams.
That definition fits Riot like a glove
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-21-2010, 08:06 PM
herkhorse's Avatar
herkhorse herkhorse is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Gonesville
Posts: 11,422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
If you listen to the comments in the context of the conversation its painfully obvious that he isnt condemning anyone. He was simply expressing the fear he personally felt. You are projecting on his words. Expressing his own honestly felt feelings is candor.

You want the world to be so black and white, politically correct that you can't see the difference between a guy expressing his own personal fears and a blanket condemnation. The fact is that everyone of us knows that if a suspect looking person wearing muslim clothing gets on a plane with us, the thought crosses our minds. You may not admit it but you know it is true. Doesn't make you a bigot or racist or anything of the sort. It simply makes you human.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.