Zenyatta

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

A very exciting race, Blame looked like he walks to victory but Zenyatta makes a race out of it when she looked like she was totally out of it, she will get more respect out of finishing second than winning the race.

the funny thing is, her ardent and airheaded fans who know nothing about racing will be incredibly disappointed, while anyone who knows anything about racing will say that was her best effort ever. yes, she lost. but she showed more today against the best field she's ever faced than against those soon forgotten cupcakes in cali.

it also shows glaringly just how much her chickenhearted connections have cost her. she should have been racing like today all year, instead of racing in paid glorified workouts.

[fpsoxfan]

She ran an impressive race. Nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not a Zentard but there is a lot to love about this horse.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

Eat a bowl of dicks!

nice..thats what happens when you race vs all the horses out there..not just
the slugs in your back yard..

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the funny thing is, her ardent and airheaded fans who know nothing about racing will be incredibly disappointed, while anyone who knows anything about racing will say that was her best effort ever. yes, she lost. but she showed more today against the best field she's ever faced than against those soon forgotten cupcakes in cali.

it also shows glaringly just how much her chickenhearted connections have cost her. she should have been racing like today all year, instead of racing in paid glorified workouts.

I'm hardly dissapointed, I thought she ran great, answered if she could run well on dirt, with less than an ideal trip. No excuses she lost, but she ran great and hats off to her. Case closed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'm hardly dissapointed, I thought she ran great with less than an ideal trip. No excuses she lost, but she ran great and hats off to her. Case closed.

i said airheaded fans who know nothing about racing....are you including yourself in that group, or in the latter group who understands the game and tips their hat to her? thanks for comprehending my post.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by CSC

You don't think she ran a great race?

Of course I do, which I already said in this thread.
That still doesn't mean that the portion of your previous post which I highlighted makes any sense whatsoever.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Of course I do, which I already said in this thread.
That still doesn't mean that the portion of your previous post which I highlighted makes any sense whatsoever.

Sometimes a loss in defeat when you take into account race dynamics is just as impressive, look at Seattle Slew's loss to Exceller, that race did more for him than any in his career.

[trackrat59]

If we continue on like this the Z threads will never die.

Let's do this. Let's decide who she should be bred to. First of all, who is tall enough to, you know, mount her?

For no other reason than he's my favorite sire, I vote for Tiznow. The horsey in my pic is Tizzy boy.

Ok, someone guess next who Mr. Z will be.

Originally Posted by CSC

Sometimes a loss in defeat when you take into account race dynamics is just as impressive, look at Seattle Slew's loss to Exceller, that race did more for him than any in his career.

Oh my god.

[goingtothewhip]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

nice..thats what happens when you race vs all the horses out there..not just
the slugs in your back yard..

What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate her grade I (restricted) form to dirt. Is that what happened?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate that form to dirt. Is that what happened?

If she ran 4th or last, that would be dissapointing, she ran a terrific race. Why the dissapointment? Courageous in defeat, that's the way champion horses run, she didn't suck it up like Quality Road did, she ran until she ran out of racetrack.

[goingtothewhip]

Originally Posted by CSC

If she ran 4th or last, that would be dissapointing, she ran a terrific race. Why the dissapointment? Courageous in defeat, that's the way champion horses run, she didn't suck it up like Quality Road did, she ran until she ran out of racetrack.

I like to win. A personality defect i guess.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate her grade I (restricted) form to dirt. Is that what happened?

yes but my point is more that in alot of those wins she beat noone..she ran well ..but shes not as good as most of the horses that the press machine has said.. better than seattle slew , ect no way..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I think what might get lost here is how horrid this field was in relation to past editions of this race.

Whoever was riding First Dude caused a huge pace collapse .. it basically was supposed to be a stone cold Blame 1st and Fly Down 2nd type of race at that point. Credit John Shireffs - he has an amazing record when he points for an objective. Zenyatta ran much better than I thought she would.

The final time was a joke. Uncle Mo is going to get a Beyer figure only 3 full points slower than Blame will for winning a wildly sub-par edition of the Classic.

I remember everyone make a huge deal about about how Arazi was the star of the 1991 Breeders Cup ... keep in mind he needed 1:46.40 in his blowout win over Bertrando.. Uncle Mo needed 1:42.60 today ... his final time was 3.80 full seconds (or 22 lengths) faster than Arazi's in his destruction Bertrando.

Blame's final time of 2:02.28 - was just 0.52 seconds faster than Black Tie Affair's 2:02.80 Breeders Cup Classic win at Churchill also in 1991.

It's a pretty sad statement to the older males when you have a horse like Blame - who's run Beyers in the 101-to-103 range in five of his last six career starts .. and even so I thought enough of him to make him my 2nd pick in this race in the paper today.

There was no slouch like Volponi or Mine That Bird out there today to deep six this field and make a mockery of them ... but this group was asking for it. Japan sent over the wrong horse. A speedy miler off of a bad prep .. had they sent over some late running dirt closer in halfway decent form - they probably win this.

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

If we continue on like this the Z threads will never die.

Let's do this. Let's decide who she should be bred to. First of all, who is tall enough to, you know, mount her?

For no other reason than he's my favorite sire, I vote for Tiznow. The horsey in my pic is Tizzy boy.

Ok, someone guess next who Mr. Z will be.

If we wait a year she can be bred to Blame, he should have "done enough" by this time next year, right?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's a pretty sad statement to the older males when you have a horse like Blame - who's run Beyers in the 101-to-103 range in five of his last six career starts .. and even so I thought enough of him to make him my 2nd pick in this race in the paper today.

Who was your pick? (Or maybe I should ask: how many other 'picks' did you get in the race?)

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Who was your pick? (Or maybe I should ask: how many other 'picks' did you get in the race?)

Quality Road 1st
Blame 2nd
Haynesfield 3rd

Two of them got baked on the pace and were beaten a mile... the other won a collapsing stagger fest.

[knickslions2]

All I know it was the easiest exacta of the whole two days and paid 33 and change. It is a shame we didn't see more of Zenyatta on dirt.

[santana]

There is no doubt she ran a great race....better than i thought she would. Glad she lost though, the better than Big Red comparisons were getting old.....

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

All I know it was the easiest exacta of the whole two days and paid 33 and change. It is a shame we didn't see more of Zenyatta on dirt.

Great Point!