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Old 02-22-2011, 03:50 PM
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I don't see the problem. Douchers lived life to the fullest so they could brag about doing something most people won't do. Unfortunately for them they'll never know why most people don't sail in dangerous places.

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Old 02-22-2011, 03:50 PM
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Are you saying that people on welfare are more prone to engage in criminal activities? That's sure what it sounded like. I've had my income cut off more than once and I didn't turn to a life of crime.
Here is a study of Crime and shows the increase in crime later in the month after welfare checks are delivered. What do you think will happen if there were no checks at all? I'm sure you think I am a bleeding heart liberal I couldn't be further from it. But I do know that every action has a reaction and there is something called the law of law of unintended consequences.
There are no binary solutions. to issues of this nature.

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Old 02-22-2011, 03:55 PM
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I'm saying that a good number of people on welfare are at the end of their rope and probably are paycheck to paycheck with no backup. You probably had some backup. Put yourself in a position where you have no money, no backup a family to feed. Pretty desperate no? Now multiply that by the number of people having their welfare taken away according to your master plan. Are you saying NONE of them will resort to criminal activity? If you are you are very very naive. If I were put in that situation I can't say with all honesty that I wouldn't resort to criminal activity.
My master plan will boot able bodied scammers off the trough, not people in true need of assistance. They are already robbing people by scamming welfare in the first place. Middle class, and wealthy people account for as much, or more crime than the so-called poor.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:56 PM
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Some Americans will do the jobs that Liberals are giving them an excuse not to do.
Nonsense. The unemployed causing the elevated rate are workers - not freeloaders. Don't apply what makes up the base unemployment rate to everyone who is unemployed now.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:59 PM
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What do you think the consequence of cutting welfare to be?
Why, all those hundreds of thousands of people will magically and suddenly start working, at those hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs that are making the classified section of the newspaper five inches thick.

There are so many jobs available today, people are offering premium wages in an attempt to be competitive with trying to keep a house, a car, and a family of four alive on $280 a week. Nobody wants to give up that gravy train.
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My master plan will boot able bodied scammers off the trough, not people in true need of assistance. They are already robbing people by scamming welfare in the first place. Middle class, and wealthy people account for as much, or more crime than the so-called poor.
My Master Plan is to hit a 20.00 Super Bet on the Derby.... Just like your plan the devil is in the details and the chances of executing are virtually nil. How would you implement your master plan without spending more of our tax dollars than you are going to save?
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Nonsense. The unemployed causing the elevated rate are workers - not freeloaders. Don't apply what makes up the base unemployment rate to everyone who is unemployed now.
I wasn't generalizing. I was very specific. SCAMMERS. Welfare is not "Unemployment Ins".
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Why, all those hundreds of thousands of people will magically and suddenly start working, at those hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs that are making the classified section of the newspaper five inches thick.

There are so many jobs available today, people are offering premium wages in an attempt to be competitive with trying to keep a house, a car, and a family of four alive on $280 a week. Nobody wants to give up that gravy train.
And this is where the topic of death panels should come into play. If a person refuses to get fixed when they go on welfare then they should be put to sleep.

But like any serious issue in this country it will be swept aside. The next generation can deal with it.

Isn't that right, you old f.ucks? Thanks for the energy policy. GG
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I wasn't generalizing. I was very specific. SCAMMERS.
That's what I wanted to find out from Wing, that he didn't answer - Illinois, many years back, put a time limit on someone's ability to collect welfare. Like 2 years or something. Wonder if it's still in effect.

I wonder about people like Congresswoman and Tea Party queen Michelle Bachmann, who raised 23 foster kids - that alot of monthly government checks, combined with her government farms subsidies.
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I would be shocked if there wasn't more than 20 loopholes for that in Illinois.

It's amazing how intelligent some of these welfare recipients are...Morty excluded.
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And this is where the topic of death panels should come into play. If a person refuses to get fixed when they go on welfare then they should be put to sleep.

But like any serious issue in this country it will be swept aside. The next generation can deal with it.

Isn't that right, you old f.ucks? Thanks for the energy policy. GG
the one where the EPA decided that Carbon Dioxide was a pollutant or that we cannot build nuke plants, oil refineries or drill?
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the one where the EPA decided that Carbon Dioxide was a pollutant or that we cannot build nuke plants, oil refineries or drill?
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:08 PM
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the one where the EPA decided that Carbon Dioxide was a pollutant or that we cannot build nuke plants, oil refineries or drill?
Don't worry, the GOP is about to strip the EPA of their ability to regulate anything. You'll have acid rain and poisonous water back before you can say "liberals suck".
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:11 PM
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Don't worry, the GOP is about to strip the EPA of their ability to regulate anything. You'll have acid rain and poisonous water back before you can say "liberals suck".
India and China are going to choke everyone out. Go throw those histrionics on them.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:16 PM
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Instead of building High Speed Rail Systems we should start building prisons because the coming crime wave from the Federal Govt, along with the States, going bankrupt will fill them in a hurry. You can only print so much money before you run out of paper.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:19 PM
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Instead of building High Speed Rail Systems we should start building prisons because the coming crime wave from the Federal Govt, along with the States, going bankrupt will fill them in a hurry. You can only print so much money before you run out of paper.
Completely disagree.

The prison system needs to be cut drastically. Some states are actually paying private companies 10-25% more than what it would cost the state to run a prison.

Less prisons, More common sense on non-violent offenders.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:52 PM
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Completely disagree.

The prison system needs to be cut drastically. Some states are actually paying private companies 10-25% more than what it would cost the state to run a prison.

Less prisons, More common sense on non-violent offenders.
And more capital punishment...not with mandatory appeals and 30 year delays. Sentence carried out next month.
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I would be shocked if there wasn't more than 20 loopholes for that in Illinois.

It's amazing how intelligent some of these welfare recipients are...Morty excluded.
^^^^ is on welfare....of course!
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