Weekend Beyers - Page 2

dalakhani · #21 03-14-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I would say it was widely held going in that Comma To The Top had peaked and considering he was involved in that brutal pace and actually opened up at the top of the stretch, Jaycito should have soundly defeated him.

Jaycito likely needed a race but it would have been nice to see him move forward in his first start at 3 a little bit more than that. He's going to have to improve quite a bit to be considered a win candidate on 5/7.

I think it speaks more to Comma to the Top running a nice race considering where the other two horses that were dueling ended up but that's just my opinion.

I wonder if Baffert puts the shades back on Jaycito. He looked dull.

Kasept · #22 03-14-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I wonder if Baffert puts the shades back on Jaycito. He looked dull.

Yes... Baffert returning the hood to Jaycito.

NoLuvForPletch · #23 03-14-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think it speaks more to Comma to the Top running a nice race considering where the other two horses that were dueling ended up but that's just my opinion.

I wonder if Baffert puts the shades back on Jaycito. He looked dull.

I don't disagree about CTTT's guts. No doubt he is a gutty horse, but for Jaycito to only beat him by 2 lengths after CTTT goes sub 45 sub 109 is a mystery. Maybe the double move and the wide trip need to be more seriously accounted for?

Sightseek · #24 03-14-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog

I love how Tackleberry just keeps on coming.

Me too!

Dahoss · #25 03-14-2011, 01:34 PM

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

Indian Charlie · #26 03-14-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

It is one of the greater horse racing mysteries to me, ever.

asudevil · #27 03-14-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I don't disagree about CTTT's guts. No doubt he is a gutty horse, but for Jaycito to only beat him by 2 lengths after CTTT goes sub 45 sub 109 is a mystery. Maybe the double move and the wide trip need to be more seriously accounted for?

Peter Miller and his owners should check their egos at the door. Put this guy back on grass and go get trophy's and lots of dough. No shame in his main track efforts.

knickslions2 · #28 03-14-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

Couldn't agree with you more...I haven't seen one thing from this horse that leads me to belive he can win the derby.

NTamm1215 · #29 03-14-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

The funny thing about it all too is that people are being a little bit more critical of Premier Pegasus because he "got a huge setup." Everyone needs to re-watch that race and see where PP and Jaycito are respectively with just over a half-mile to go. Premier Pegasus absolutely blew Jaycito's doors off.

Yes, the pace setup was hot, but this wasn't some staggerfest late where Premier Pegasus clunked up to win. He made a legitimate 3 furlong bid that, yes was setup by a fast pace, but was also a very strong move.

Unless you are REALLY forgiving and feel that Jaycito needed a race off the bench there's absolutely no reason why you'd take him over Premier Pegasus right now. PP made the first run into the collapsing pace and Jaycito still did nothing more than plod along for a well-beaten 2nd.

tjfla · #30 03-14-2011, 02:26 PM

THe thing people fall to talk about is that the race was 1 1/16, if the race was 1 1/8 Comma to the Top would have been like 7th or 8th.

He has no chance in the Derby

Jaycito on the other hand did not look great but raced decent. The distance will help him and don't forget he came off a layoff. I am just happy he did not blow any turns this time LOL

NoLuvForPletch · #31 03-14-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

I thought his Norfolk was a pretty impressive effort. I have never seen a horse win a two turn race (non bull ring of course) being at least 4 wide the entire way around, except maybe Big Brown's Derby, and i don't think he was quite as wide for as long. Still impressive in its own right. How many lengths better than JP's Gusto in that race?

Port Conway Lane · #32 03-14-2011, 02:58 PM

Anyone who watches HRTV regularly knows Jeff Siegel touted this horse heavily in the week leading up to the race, based solely on what he was told by Baffert.

It was funny watching Baffert being interviewed the day of the race playing down the inevitable KOD.

Indian Charlie · #33 03-14-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The funny thing about it all too is that people are being a little bit more critical of Premier Pegasus because he "got a huge setup." Everyone needs to re-watch that race and see where PP and Jaycito are respectively with just over a half-mile to go. Premier Pegasus absolutely blew Jaycito's doors off.

Yes, the pace setup was hot, but this wasn't some staggerfest late where Premier Pegasus clunked up to win. He made a legitimate 3 furlong bid that, yes was setup by a fast pace, but was also a very strong move.

Unless you are REALLY forgiving and feel that Jaycito needed a race off the bench there's absolutely no reason why you'd take him over Premier Pegasus right now. PP made the first run into the collapsing pace and Jaycito still did nothing more than plod along for a well-beaten 2nd.

Yeah man, I really don't know what people see when they watch a race sometimes. PP ran out of his skin, and Jaycito, well, he was Jaycito.

Indian Charlie · #34 03-14-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I thought his Norfolk was a pretty impressive effort. I have never seen a horse win a two turn race (non bull ring of course) being at least 4 wide the entire way around, except maybe Big Brown's Derby, and i don't think he was quite as wide for as long. Still impressive in its own right. How many lengths better than JP's Gusto in that race?

How many lengths better than JP's Gusto?

Who cares??

The Indomitable DrugS · #35 03-14-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Moss Race Shape for the San Felipe: 98 (+26) 98 (+17) 94 (+7) 91

Do you have the Moss race shape for the Tampa Derby or Uncle Mo's race?

Scav · #36 03-14-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Anyone who watches HRTV regularly knows Jeff Siegel touted this horse heavily in the week leading up to the race, based solely on what he was told by Baffert.

It was funny watching Baffert being interviewed the day of the race playing down the inevitable KOD.

It might have had something to do with his partner Andy Harrington also. His workout reports on Jaycito were very strong.

LARHAGE · #37 03-14-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Could someone please explain the Jaycito hype to me? I really don't get it and I have tried to. Where is his good race? Is it all based on his non threatening run in the Juvenile? Maybe Baffert? I was sure after his performance on Saturday that the talk would subside, but he's still being talked about.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, the horse is wacky and slow, just the type of Derby horse that excels.

hockey2315 · #38 03-14-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Do you have the Moss race shape for the Tampa Derby or Uncle Mo's race?

Tampa Bay Derby: 73 (+1) 75 (-4) 82 (-1) 86

Uncle Mo: 51 (-26) 59 (-24) 71 (-15) 89 WOW

Dahoss · #39 03-14-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I thought his Norfolk was a pretty impressive effort. I have never seen a horse win a two turn race (non bull ring of course) being at least 4 wide the entire way around, except maybe Big Brown's Derby, and i don't think he was quite as wide for as long. Still impressive in its own right. How many lengths better than JP's Gusto in that race?

Have you watched a race in California in the last 3 years? It happens daily on synth.

hockey2315 · #40 03-14-2011, 06:29 PM

I'd like to go on record that I think Jaycito sucks. . . I said earlier in the thread that I thought he could suck up for a piece. By a piece, I meant fourth. Only because he'll be at the back early being his stupid self.