Gene Simmons for President

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

elvis costello > kiss

Yeah, I agree with that

You can't eat the caviar of true musical ability all the time - you gotta have some popcorn!

BTW, it came out that Newt Gingrich's ring tone is "Dancing Queen" by Abba (his phone went off while being interviewed - it's on tape)

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

when his 'esteemed colleague, friend and fellow senator from Illinois' as he usually calls him was on the senate floor calling 'our' (U.S. troops) gestapo, Obama's silence spoke volumes of his feelings for the military.

You know, when you diss Obama with lies and exaggerations, all the people who don't support your nonsense speak volumes with their silence. Following your complete lack of logic and obtuse thinking methodology, I must assume every one of the people not posting here against your silly contentions, must agree with you totally.

You ignore the President's speech (even copied here for you to not read) in favor of the assumption you make, above.

ROFLMAO.

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Another thing Dell won't read about Obama's publicly stated American position on Israel and Palistine, in favor of ... oh, just making something up.

http://gantdaily.com/2011/05/23/jewi...-aipac-speech/

Jewish opinion pendulum swings in favor of Obama after AIPAC speech

May 23, 2011 at 5:22 AM
Tejinder Singh – AHN News Correspondent

Washington, DC, United States (AHN) – President Barack Obama got a boost as Jewish organizations reacted with optimism after his speech Sunday at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), where the president reaffirmed the importance of the U.S.-Israel relationship.

National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) President and CEO David A. Harris in a statement threw his weight behind Obama saying, “This President and the United States stands decidedly with Israel. This is the plain truth, and the President gave voice to it again today. It is time for our community to strive to correct the record, and stand up to those who are trying to manipulate the facts.”

That would be .... you, Dell.

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For the last 24 hours, I've been taking heat for complaining about Antisemetic lyrics in J. COLE songs. I have had exactly zero support. Needless to say, this guy, nor any of the other of 2% of Jewish Americans, has any shot at being President.



Return to Simba":

"My President is black, but my jeweler’s still Jewish
So you know it cost, he makin’ a killin’ off me
Red diamonds he designin’ got me shinin’ "

Villematic:

"Talk is cheap, it's like ya'll grew up in a Jewish home!
Pardon the stereotype
But ya'll giving me mixed feeling's like you married a white woman"

Yea, I do draw the line there.

who is J. Cole? Sorry I'm not hip with rap and bullsh.it in the 21st century.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

1) When his mom got dumped and with no man there to support her moved back to her parents home that happened to be in the US.

2) Blood

3) Paying for the country's tab v. taking from it. Opposites and my point.

4) Since I found the Obama quote specfically in regards to the '67 border can you find the same for say Reagan? Surely he is included in every President.

you are so dumb dell! this must be an act

Uncly weren't you praising Newt a few weeks ago?

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Uncly weren't you praising Newt a few weeks ago?

yep, I am a Gingrich fan.

Good grief. Why?

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Originally Posted by Riot

Obama and every other President, Dell, have started negotiations from that point. Your intense decades-long study of Israel and the middle east surely has taught you our history. Obama also said that there should be land swaps. So at least you should be honest about "what Obama said".

Here is what Obama said verbatim.....

“So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”

Show me one President ever say anything about basing new borders on the 1967 lines? You know besides Carter. And thank you for assuming I was dishonest about what Obama said and was able to requote him exactly as it came out of his mouth.

"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines" Wonder if Iran believes the U.S. should open negotiations with the Pottawattomi Tribe in Wisconsin regarding expansion of the reservations based on the 1846 treaty? Just about as relevent.

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Good grief. Why?

because I feel he has a better handle on what is going on than the majority of politicians. And I think he's smarter than most.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Show me one President ever say anything about basing new borders on the 1967 lines? You know besides Carter. And thank you for assuming I was dishonest about what Obama said and was able to requote him exactly as it came out of his mouth.

I see at least you've changed your contention to match what the President actually said. Good for you!

That has always been our foreign policy, Dell. What Obama said was nothing new, he simply stated it, and everyone who pays attention to the middle east knows it. In fact, alot of opinion pages talked about how he never said anything new in this speech. Why are you ignoring all that? It's strange. Do you not read any major newspapers, or watch the nightly news shows?

That's the truth, and every one but the crazy right-wing flying monkey show knows it.

Admit it, Dell - your contention that this President is "anti-Israel and pro-Palestine" is beyond absurd and simply wrong.

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Originally Posted by Riot

I see at least you've changed your contention to match what the President actually said. Good for you!

That has always been our foreign policy, Dell. What Obama said was nothing new, he simply stated it, and everyone who pays attention to the middle east knows it. In fact, alot of opinion pages talked about how he never said anything new in this speech. Why are you ignoring all that? It's strange. Do you not read any major newspapers, or watch the nightly news shows?

That's the truth, and every one but the crazy right-wing flying monkey show knows it.

not true, i was watching fox either yesterday or the day before and they pointed it out

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

not true, i was watching fox either yesterday or the day before and they pointed it out

I never knew Hannity actually still regularly refers to the President of the United States as "the annointed one" on his show. It's sad, all that hate.

One thing about the 1990's, Clinton and your bud Gingrich did work together. It was a sad day for this country, when Mitch McConnell came out and said that their legislative goal was to make sure this President is not re-elected.

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

who is J. Cole? Sorry I'm not hip with rap and bullsh.it in the 21st century.

I so wish nobody knew who he is.


I'm not a huge fan of rap vocals. I do love Hip Hop, and they do try to kill 2 birds with one stone. Unfortunately, the best new tracks (to put vocals on top of) are repeatedly going to (or made by) people in these 2 genres.

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For Dell. Name that President reiterating our usual, consistent foreign policy for this region. Obama's speech was nearly a duplicate of this.

THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon. I'd like to, first, thank Prime Minister Olmert and President Abbas for their hospitality during my trip here to the Holy Land. We had very good meetings, and now is the time to make difficult choices...

The point of departure for permanent status negotiations to realize this vision seems clear: There should be an end to the occupation that began in 1967. The agreement must establish Palestine as a homeland for the Palestinian people, just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people. These negotiations must ensure that Israel has secure, recognized, and defensible borders. And they must ensure that the state of Palestine is viable, contiguous, sovereign, and independent.

Achieving an agreement will require painful political concessions by both sides. While territory is an issue for both parties to decide, I believe that any peace agreement between them will require mutually agreed adjustments to the armistice lines of 1949 to reflect current realities and to ensure that the Palestinian state is viable and contiguous. I believe we need to look to the establishment of a Palestinian state and new international mechanisms, including compensation, to resolve the refugee issue.

http://rel*iefweb.int*/node/2540*93”

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Originally Posted by Riot

For Dell. Name that President reiterating our usual, consistent foreign policy for this region. Obama's speech was nearly a duplicate of this.



http://rel*iefweb.int*/node/2540*93”

I guess I see a difference between what Bush said and what Obama just said. Ending occupation is far far different than starting with and using 1967 borders as a basis. At least IMO

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I guess I see a difference between what Bush said and what Obama just said. Ending occupation is far far different than starting with and using 1967 borders as a basis. At least IMO

Wow. Just ignoring the comparable statements? Deliberate on your part? Pulling two completely different things out of each statement and pretending to compare them?

Poke out my eyes with sticks, or try and logically talk politics with Dell. What do to?

Face it, Dell - your effort to paint Obama as proposing anything different than every other President in the last 40 years is clearly wrong, and your effort to paint him as "anti-Israel" is just beyond absurd.

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Associated Press calling it for the Democrat Kathy Houchel.

Wow.

Hey, Republicans?

Remember, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare and Social Security!"

They meant it.

Buh bye, long-term solidly Republican Congressional seat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/ny...-election.html

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Originally Posted by Riot

Associated Press calling it for the Democrat Kathy Houchel.

Wow.

Hey, Republicans?

Remember, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare and Social Security!"

They meant it.

Buh bye, long-term solidly Republican Congressional seat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/ny...-election.html

They always over cooking shyt. If you're in your early fifties, and struggling, the last thing you want is rich people telling you that (later on) you're gunna get a voucher to help pay a portion of your medical. Riot, they just don't think about others. It's just not in their nature.