A Sad Memorial Day

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I suspected 'your' relatives would be in the minority that would want money sent to Egypt rather than Missouri. .

My relatives always cared about their fellow Americans. How dare you say otherwise.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

My relatives always cared about their fellow Americans. How dare you say otherwise.

When I said the majority of deceased troops would have wanted money kept at home rather then sent to Egypt why did you object as though your relatives would have thought otherwise?

I have a feeling you are in the minority of your own family especially among anyone who died for his/her country.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When I said the majority of deceased troops would have wanted money kept at home rather then sent to Egypt why did you object as though your relatives would have thought otherwise?

I have a feeling you are in the minority of your own family especially among anyone who died for his/her country.

I love my country. I am proud of my country. My patriotism is exceeded by none. My family, over generations, have given to this country serving the military. The only thing you are allowed to say about them is "thank you". And don't you ever, ever question my love of my country.

[Dahoss]

You guys should just phuck already and get it over with.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I love my country. I am proud of my country. My patriotism is exceeded by none. My family, over generations, have given to this country serving the military. The only thing you are allowed to say about them is "thank you". And don't you ever, ever question my love of my country.

Then where is the objection? Now you too agree we should keep the money in pocket rather then send it to Egypt? Good for you, quite the flip flop, hope you didn't pull anything.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I love my country. I am proud of my country. My patriotism is exceeded by none. My family, over generations, have given to this country serving the military. The only thing you are allowed to say about them is "thank you". And don't you ever, ever question my love of my country.

BTW glad the current First Lady finally came around to feeling the same. Would have been nice if it didn't take till her mid 40's to realize it but I guess better late than never.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by bigrun

It Is The Veteran..

War makes strange giant creatures out of the little routine men who inhabit the Earth. --WWII correspondent Ernie Pyle.



It is the
VETERAN ,
not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.


It is
the VETERAN ,
not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.



It is
the VETERAN ,
not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.



It is
the
VETERAN
who serves
under the Flag.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by bigrun

It Is The Veteran..

War makes strange giant creatures out of the little routine men who inhabit the Earth. --WWII correspondent Ernie Pyle.



It is the
VETERAN ,
not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is
the VETERAN ,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.


It is
the VETERAN ,
not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.



It is
the VETERAN ,
not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.



It is
the
VETERAN
who serves
under the Flag.

Thanks for posting this!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

thanks to all who served in defence of our freedom..sit down with your kids and teenagers and make them see the whole band of brothers series..they will get it..

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Instead of "sad", I prefer to be honored, grateful and proud of those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice. Because of their selflessness, my family and I are living a good life.

Wars are not always necessary or right, but this country was born by war and most certainly shaped by war. I am forever in debt to all who have given their lives, served and are currently serving our country.

[Princess Doreen]

Memorial Day is not just another Monday.
Memorial Day is about honoring those who paid the ultimate price in defense of our country.
Memorial Day is about celebrating the lives of those who have left us.
Memorial Day is about remembering and giving thanks.
Our present is only possible because of their past service.
We have a future... because they sacrificed theirs.
So today, I want to say thank you.

[clyde]

More fine work.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we are leaving san antonio now. of course we visited the alamo, a poignant shrine to a group who all gave all they had for freedom. glad we went.

Others may appreciate this as well, but I'm almost sure you will find this interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/30/op...pagewanted=all

David Blight is one of the best historians around.

[dellinger63]

Interesting poll regarding the military and Obama. Custom made for this thread

Bottom Line

Americans who currently serve or previously served in the U.S. military are less likely to approve of the job President Obama is doing than are those who have not served in the military, by about 10 percentage points. This approval gap occurs across age groups.

For younger, post-draft-era veterans, individuals with certain regional, demographic, or psychographic backgrounds may be more likely to be Republican and more likely to join the military. For older veterans, their service in the military may have led them to a more Republican viewpoint on politics, either during their service or in later years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Mi...wer-Marks.aspx

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Interesting poll regarding the military and Obama. Custom made for this thread

Bottom Line

Americans who currently serve or previously served in the U.S. military are less likely to approve of the job President Obama is doing than are those who have not served in the military, by about 10 percentage points. This approval gap occurs across age groups.

For younger, post-draft-era veterans, individuals with certain regional, demographic, or psychographic backgrounds may be more likely to be Republican and more likely to join the military. For older veterans, their service in the military may have led them to a more Republican viewpoint on politics, either during their service or in later years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Mi...wer-Marks.aspx

Can't you just substitute "Democrat" for "Obama" and get similar results? I never thought of military folk as leaning Left much anyway so I really don't think this is specific to our President.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Can't you just substitute "Democrat" for "Obama" and get similar results? I never thought of military folk as leaning Left much anyway so I really don't think this is specific to our President.

Yea I should have known better and not believed Charlie Rangel when he said the military was made up of and took advantage of poor minorities. Of course that was in the Bush years when Charlie wanted to reinstate the draft.

But Bob you're right, JFK was probably popular but he was far from your modern day Dem.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Others may appreciate this as well, but I'm almost sure you will find this interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/30/op...pagewanted=all

David Blight is one of the best historians around.

thanks for posting this. i knew why memorial day started, but others may not. just finished the shelby foote trilogy the other day. 20 years worth of effort by him~im glad he put forth the effort.
have the history channel set to dvr tonite for the gettysburg show.
that war was a painful, horribly bloody too long chapter in our history. so costly, with every major battle surpassing the previous one in lives lost.

[bigrun]

Memorial Day: Blessed are they




By Times-Dispatch Staff
Published: May 30, 2011

Today America pauses. A grateful nation remembers and offers thanks. Memorial Day honors those who gave the last full measure of devotion; liberty endures because of those who died on its behalf.

The brave always have answered the call. Lexington and Concord, Bunker Hill and other engagements made the Declaration of Independence possible. Early defeat would have crushed the Revolution. Ideas motivated the Founders; sacrifice ensured their success.

Guns may fall silent, yet as philosophers have said only the dead have seen the end of war. The war to end all war, for instance, led to a second global conflagration in 20 years. The wounds of Normandy and Iwo Jima, of Bastogne and Guadalcanal had not healed before the U.S. engaged in combat at the Pusan Perimeter and the Chosin Reservoir. Americans bled in Vietnam. For decades they stood sentinel in a divided Europe. Today, they stand guard in Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 230 Virginians have died in the war against jihadism.

When he said farewell to the Corps, and the Corps, and the Corps, Gen. Douglas MacArthur said of the American soldier:

"From one end of the world to the other, he has drained deep the chalice of courage. As I listened to those songs [of the glee club], in memory's eye I could see those staggering columns of the First World War, bending under soggy packs on many a weary march, from dripping dusk to drizzling dawn, slogging ankle deep through mire of shell-pocked roads, to form grimly for the attack, blue-lipped, covered with sludge and mud, chilled by the wind and rain, driving home to their objective, and for many, to the judgment seat of God.

"I do not know the dignity of their birth, but I do know the glory of their death. They died unquestioning, uncomplaining, with faith in their hearts, and on their lips the hope that we would go on to victory. Always for them: Duty, Honor, Country; always their blood, and sweat, and tears, as they saw the way and the light."

MacArthur's words continue to describe the men and woman who have chosen the profession of arms — a profession equaled only by the clergy. Today is a day to take pilgrimages to war memorials, and to bend the knee.

[timmgirvan]

Very Nice, bigrun!