WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

[dellinger63]

Well done and now it's time to go enjoy the beautiful WI summer! You guys deserve it! Tight lines.....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...0,271676.story

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Well done and now it's time to go enjoy the beautiful WI summer! You guys deserve it! Tight lines.....

Except for having to fight like dogs to keep your seats next month in unprecedented recall elections initiated by your very angry electorate, furious at what you've done to them

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Except for having to fight like dogs to keep your seats next month in unprecedented recall elections initiated by your very angry electorate, furious at what you've done to them

IL unions do not have a vote. For the most part the very angry, furious people were not part of the electorate, rather they were bused in from Chicago or had a day off of classes at UMAD. Don't believe everything you read.

Will be out on the lake this afternoon and I don't expect to see a single angry-furious person, but we'll see.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

IL unions do not have a vote. For the most part the very angry, furious people were not part of the electorate, rather they were bused in from Chicago or had a day off of classes at UMAD. Don't believe everything you read.

But those allegedly "bussed in" people that you are making up were not the ones that signed - far in excess of the numerical requirements, and quickly - the petitions necessary for the recall.

Those were indeed angry, furious Wisconsin citizens.

You know, like the ones that demonstrated at the capital last night, and are set up in the Walker Tent City outside?

So yeah, Dell, wish your Republican representatives a "good vacation". They are desperately putting up fake Democratic candidates in the elections to try and force runoffs, so they can campaign for forgiveness another month before they are kicked out for unacceptable performance.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You know, like the ones that demonstrated at the capital last night, and are set up in the Walker Tent City outside?.

If your referring to the half dozen people present at the vote, they were lost after a night on Water St and were looking for a bathroom

[Riot]

Good op-ed on current political situation in Wisconsin

"Wisconsin, Inc.: New Republican Politics in the Age of the Recall"

http://www.theawl.com/2011/06/wiscon...-of-the-recall

[nebrady]

The recount of supreme court cost the tax payers of wisconsin half million dollars. But yet don't hear you bitch about that. You talk about union as though they are so great, they aren't. Its time people give walker and republicans props for trying to get the state deficit in order instead of keep burying our heads in the ground. Maybe obama and the rest of washington can learn this too. Quit spending money like its monopoly money! It doesn't work! As for the recall, i wonder how much money that will cost! In the end wisconsin will be fine and the protesters can no longer lock themselves to capitol rails with bike locks! Good job walker!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by nebrady

The recount of supreme court cost the tax payers of wisconsin half million dollars. But yet don't hear you bitch about that.

LOL - No, I don't "bitch" when citizens have the right to know if their elections were won by cheating or not.

Bush v. Gore mean anything to you, btw?

You talk about union as though they are so great, they aren't.

So there!

Its time people give walker and republicans props for trying to get the state deficit in order instead of keep burying our heads in the ground.

But their union-busting legislation doesn't do anything to help the budget, does it? Even the GOP says that. Hell, they passed it as a non-fiscal measure.

Maybe obama and the rest of washington can learn this too. Quit spending money like its monopoly money! It doesn't work! As for the recall, i wonder how much money that will cost!

It won't be free. It's legal, according to your state Constitution, btw. The people have protections against their government, and this is one of them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - No, I don't "bitch" when citizens have the right to know if their elections were won by cheating or not.

Bush v. Gore mean anything to you, btw?.

The woman declared herself the victor over a couple hundred votes yet challenged a defeat of 7,000 some votes and following the recount was affirmed that she was defeated by some 7.000 votes. Half million wasted but I'm sure in your peabrain it amounts to a $800,000 return. For christ sake you can't even understand how public employees, paying for in part their pensions and beni's helps the taxpayer. Obama had hope and you're hopeless! And a former Republican on top of it? LMAO

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It won't be free. It's legal, according to your state Constitution, btw. The people have protections against their government, and this is one of them.

You're completely right and the people of WI realize what a waste of money and resources it was. For every act their is a reaction and the Dems calling for frivilous recounts and recalls has been recognized and will be acted upon by the taxpayers of WI.

BTW Those who pay no taxes or are employed by the taxpayer are in the Dems pocket anyway and are like little dependent children voting for their Dads.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The woman declared herself the victor over a couple hundred votes yet challenged a defeat of 7,000 some votes and following the recount was affirmed that she was defeated by some 7.000 votes. Half million wasted but I'm sure in your peabrain it amounts to a $800,000 return. For christ sake you can't even understand how public employees, paying for in part their pensions and beni's helps the taxpayer. Obama had hope and you're hopeless! And a former Republican on top of it? LMAO

Oh for christ sakes, your poor loser guy Prosser immediately - day after election - said he was demanding a recount, and filed a legal hold on the election results: until Waukesha suddenly came up with 7,000 votes. I didn't hear you whining about either the cost to taxpayers of that little temper tantrum, nor did we hear you decrying the nonsensical insistence by Prosser that the election not be certified and legal when he was over 7,000 votes in the hole. Talk about a poor loser wasting taxpayers money! Your hypocrisy and and lack of self-awareness knows no bounds. LMAO.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

BTW Those who pay no taxes or are employed by the taxpayer are in the Dems pocket anyway and are like little dependent children voting for their Dads.

You mean "in the pocket" like Prosser the Supreme Court Justice said his job on the court will be to help Republican Governor Scott Walker pass legislation? Or like the President of your state Senate and the police department?

You and reality are like oil and water

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean "in the pocket" like Prosser the Supreme Court Justice said his job on the court will be to help Republican Governor Scott Walker pass legislation? Or like the President of your state Senate and the police department?

You and reality are like oil and water

You need to stop believing what you read about WI and come live it.

Teachers and test scores have been slumping in WI for a long time. Crime has remained low. Police deserve what they are getting just as the teachers do.

Did you know that well over half of WI gets its Fire Protection by volunteers? Now that's what Wisconsin is all about, independence and self-reliance. Not like some tenured teacher on the picket line for more time off or more money, putting the children he/she is supposed to be teaching, out of school.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You need to stop believing what you read about WI and come live it.

You need to stop ignoring what is actually happening under your nose, and pretending it doesn't exist or more scarily, that it's good for you.

It's always strange to watch people choose to self-immolate.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You need to stop ignoring what is actually happening under your nose, and pretending it doesn't exist or more scarily, that it's good for you.

It's always strange to watch people choose to self-immolate.

here you go. Emotional LMAO !!!!!

More than 100 Green Bay teachers dressed in red packed the School Board meeting room on Monday to say they feel betrayed by a recent school district directive that would require them to work longer hours and lose planning time.

The Green Bay School District recently sent a memo to teachers indicating they would be required to work an extra half-hour a day and would lose planning time to make room for staff and other meetings.

This brought teachers — many emotional — to the School Board, saying they feel betrayed that they weren't first consulted about the changes. Many said morale among Green Bay teachers is low and expressed worry these changes could be the tip of the iceberg.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

here you go. Emotional LMAO !!!!!

I have no idea why you are changing the subject to bashing teachers. The discussion wasn't about that, nowhere close, but I guess you couldn't tell that? You're off on your own mental tangent.

I guess you're bashing just because you've been told, in the past year, that you must now bash teachers, and unions. And so you obediently do it, and you "think" about these things the new, "correct" way, as a good foot soldier should

BTW, you failed to provide an author, a reference or a link, Dell.

Have you figured out, yet, why, in America:

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Have you figured out, yet, why, in America:

In America everyone should be equally accountable for their own insurnace whatever the market dictates. To force someone to pay is a sin

You know 'do not covet thy neighbors' goods'

But getting back to unions.

Cook taxpayers owe $108 billion, county Treasurer Pappas says: Greg Hinz
Posted by Ann W. at 6/21/2011 9:44 AM CDT on Chicago Business

The average Chicago household now owes a staggering $63,525 to cover local government debt, according to Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas.

Suburbanites are deeply in the red, too, with the average household owing $32,901, according to the treasurer.

Among the biggest reasons: $25 billion in unfunded pension liability.

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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have no idea why you are changing the subject to bashing teachers.:

It was based on your opinion the WI Gov was somehow favoring police and not teachers and my point that teachers have failed in WI and cops deserve a star!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It was based on your opinion the WI Gov was somehow favoring police and not teachers and my point that teachers have failed in WI and cops deserve a star!

LOL - I didn't say that at all. You'd better re-read what I said, you've completely, totally misunderstood it. I'll give you a hint: the subject was graft and corruption, and who is in whose pocket.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I didn't say that at all. You'd better re-read what I said, you've completely, totally misunderstood it. I'll give you a hint: the subject was graft and corruption, and who is in whose pocket.

and you presume the police were left out of the bill because of graft and corruption when in fact it was because they are doing a fine job. Unlike many of the teachers, who have proven themselves, unable to teach a kid to read, over a 12 year period!