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Old 09-13-2011, 12:00 PM
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Not necessarily. Many of these horses have no live bids but the price is being run up right below the reserve in the hopes that someone will bid over the reserve.
Gasp! You mean even fake bidding occurs?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:19 PM
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm exhausted watching other people spend all that money. I was happy for West Point Thoroughbreds. They got that Curlin from the family of Street Sense for $700,000. The AP Indy - Sapphire 'n Silk filly was a real beauty from what I saw on the live feed. $400,000 felt like a bargain.

What's the highest buyback so far? $575,000?
I got depressed when I realized that almost all of these horses are worth more than most houses.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:03 PM
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I got depressed when I realized that almost all of these horses are worth more than most houses.
And nearly all of them won't earn what was paid for them.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:12 PM
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Ben Leon pays $1.2MM for sister of Shared Account: Hip 307
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:22 PM
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yeah, no kidding.

all that proves to me is that people have bad tastes in food.
Who don't like all you can eat shrimp?
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:26 PM
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Ben Leon pays $1.2MM for sister of Shared Account: Hip 307
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...rnardini-filly


“My passion is breeding and to breed you need excellent broodmares,” Leon said. “You can buy stud fees to stallions, but you cannot buy a uterus from a mare, so you have to buy the mare."

I think this guy scares me.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:50 PM
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Who don't like all you can eat shrimp?
People who don't like low quality.

The shrimp typically found in restaurants nowadays is nowhere near the flavor and quality of what you'd find 20-30 years ago.

Me? I get wild native Maine shrimp by the bucketful for $1 a lb when in season, then prep and freeze a year's worth, for like $50.

The meat is pink and sweet, and bears no resemblance to cardboard.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:00 PM
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“My passion is breeding and to breed you need excellent broodmares,” Leon said. “You can buy stud fees to stallions, but you cannot buy a uterus from a mare, so you have to buy the mare."

I think this guy scares me.
That was a rather tortured way of saying "If you want to breed horses, you need to buy fillies."
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:05 PM
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Very strong results at Keeneland Tuesday (Book 2; Day 1/3):

Hip by Hip (Bloodhorse)

Gross up 20%
Average up 22.4%
Median up 30.8%
Buybacks down (32.2% to 28.1%)
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Gasp! You mean even fake bidding occurs?
For book 1 level horses, virtually every one at some point
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:03 AM
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“My passion is breeding and to breed you need excellent broodmares,” Leon said. “You can buy stud fees to stallions, but you cannot buy a uterus from a mare, so you have to buy the mare."

I think this guy scares me.
Well, he's not wrong. Mares have always shown a profound inability to make sound financial decisions regarding the sale of their uteruses (uterei?). Just easier to buy the mare. This guy's really not that scary. He obviously doesn't participate in the exchange of money for body parts. You won't wake up in a tub of ice missing a kidney because this guy black market bought it. That's good right? See? Not scary.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:45 AM
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Well, he's not wrong. Mares have always shown a profound inability to make sound financial decisions regarding the sale of their uteruses (uterei?). Just easier to buy the mare. This guy's really not that scary. He obviously doesn't participate in the exchange of money for body parts. You won't wake up in a tub of ice missing a kidney because this guy black market bought it. That's good right? See? Not scary.
He amassed his fortune with medical centers.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:00 AM
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He amassed his fortune with medical centers.
Oh dear.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:11 AM
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Ben Leon pays $1.2MM for sister of Shared Account: Hip 307
Has Pletcher won a race for them yet
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:08 AM
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Oh dear.
Too funny.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:48 AM
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Oh dear.
hhahaha!
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:38 PM
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Anybody catch the Tapit-Baroness Thatcher colt? $50,000? Did anybody see what might be wrong with that one? I was just scrolling through the hips I missed and did a double take.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:40 PM
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Anybody catch the Tapit-Baroness Thatcher colt? $50,000? Did anybody see what might be wrong with that one? I was just scrolling through the hips I missed and did a double take.
Can you actually tell if there is something wrong by just watching the feed?
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:03 PM
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Can you actually tell if there is something wrong by just watching the feed?
I meant in person or from buzz really, but I've had negative reactions just from watching the feed. Of course, just because something's not aesthetically pleasing doesn't mean it will affect soundness. I assume you can at least get an idea of the type of colt that was. If he was pretty rough looking, or didn't look like a Tapit, for example.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:11 PM
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If anybody does want to see a little more of some horses than just on the internet feed, some consigners have started putting walking/standing videos up. You can see some of the Book 1-2-3 horses here (click on the picture to play the video)

http://www.thorostride.com/current-s...land-september
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