Payroll tax cut fight ends ugly year for Boehner

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I love the House's position ! Hold firm !!

GOP 2012

You said you wanted a clean 1 year extension. That would be the Senate Dems who offered that. The Senate GOP denied that, and the House GOP is denying that, too. Instead, the House GOP is ensuring you take a $100 cash hit - a tax increase - out of your monthly paychecks, starting in 11 days.

Do you have any idea at all what you are cheering for?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Starting January 1 (11 days from now) everyone's paycheck will be smaller, by about $40 - $125 a month.]

Everyone is the key!

Can anyone say Flat Tax for everyone!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Everyone is the key!

Can anyone say Flat Tax for everyone!

Except the wealthy. Those who make over $108,000 won't have any tax increase at all on the funds over that amount.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

You said you wanted a clean 1 year extension Ah that wasn't me . That would be the Senate Dems who offered that. The Senate GOP denied that, and the House GOP is denying that, too. Instead, the House GOP is ensuring you take a $100 cash hit - a tax increase - out of your monthly paychecks, starting in 11 days.

Do you have any idea at all what you are cheering for?

Yup! Go House Go !! Hold Firm!!

Make those Senate Ba$tards get back to work and do their job!

Looks like I'll make it to Hawaii for Christmas and Obama won't

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Yup! Go House Go !! Hold Firm!!

Make those Senate Ba$tards get back to work and do their job!

Looks like I'll make it to Hawaii for Christmas and Obama won't

Those Senate Ba$tards (sic) already negotiated three compromises, two of which Boehner allegedly approved. The last compromise which Boehner didn't bring for a vote because it would pass, and the Tea Party didn't want it to.

Enjoy your Republican tax hike next month. I'm sure your face will appreciate the sacrifice your nose is making <g>

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Except the wealthy. Those who make over $108,000 won't have any tax increase at all on the funds over that amount.

^^^^^^^^^ forgetting, actually at this point ignoring the fact the top half are paying 97% of income taxes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

^^^^^^^^^ forgetting, actually at this point ignoring the fact the top half are paying 97% of income taxes.

What does income tax have to do with payroll taxes? Nothing at all.

But hey, if you want to talk all taxes, the bottom half pay a far larger percentage of their income to taxes than your beloved wealthy, who make out like bandits.

I only pay 15% on capital gains. A portion of my income I don't pay any SS taxes on at all. Meanwhile, you pay all that, and more. Enjoy :-) Keep working your ass off for me, Dell. I do appreciate it.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What does income tax have to do with payroll taxes? Nothing at all..

Bottom Line!

And the fact payroll taxes are supposed to pay for SS and Medicare.

Get rid of SS and medicare and make the average american responsible for him/herself and there would be no need for the tax. Talk about helping small businesses.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Bottom Line!

And the fact payroll taxes are supposed to pay for SS and Medicare.

Get rid of SS and medicare and make the average american responsible for him/herself and there would be no need for the tax. Talk about helping small businesses.

Keep working and paying those taxes for me, Dell. I appreciate it! My taxes are not going up as much as yours are. And you say you want to get rid of SS and Medicare, but the GOP just voted an increase in funding those programs, paid for by a tax increase on you. What side are you on? The tax for government programs side, it appears, the GOP side?

Now you know why I have been a lifetime Republican :-) They will never get rid of my benefits. Maybe yours. They talk a good story, but it keeps people in line, believing the opposite of what they really do. Good luck, keep voting GOP for me!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Keep working and paying those taxes for me, Dell. I appreciate it! My taxes are not going up as much as yours are!

Grow up and move out of my house!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Grow up and move out of my house!

Excuse me, but I'm a "Job Creator". I think it's you that are living off me! Stop complaining, and pay your increased taxes like a good Republican!

Thank goodness the GOP rejected the Dem compromise that paid for the payroll tax cut by a small income tax on the upper incomes. Better you pay for my tax cut, than me! Have a nice 2012, and when your first paycheck is smaller, remember it's Obama's fault, not the GOP's! (even though it was the GOP that raised your taxes)

[hi_im_god]

just checked my work email and found this gem:

To: All Employees

In the absence of federal legislation extending the 2011 employee social security tax rate cut, 2012 social security tax rates for employees will increase from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent effective Jan. 1, 2012. As a result, ******** employees will see their tax deduction rise in 2012.

The U.S. Congress is still considering proposals that may extend the reduced 4.2 percent rate. Employees will be notified of any changes as soon as the information becomes available.

The Social Security Administration recently announced the maximum amount of wages subject to social security taxes will increase from $106,800 for 2011 to $110,100 for 2012.

The Medicare tax rate of 1.45 percent is unchanged for 2012. There is no limit on wages subject to Medicare taxes.

If you have any questions, please contact the HRCC.

i'm pretty sure you'll see house republican's fold before the weekend but i'd gladly pay a few $ to see them slit their own throats over this.

[Riot]

House GOP Cuts C-SPAN as They are Leaving America in the Lurch
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1...ch?via=siderec

“As you walk off the floor, Mr. Speaker, you’re walking away, just as so many Republicans have walked away from taxpayers, the unemployed, and very frankly, as well, from those who will be seeking medical assistance from their doctors, 48 million senior citizens,” D-Steny Hoyer can be heard saying.

“We regret, Mr. Speaker, that you have walked off the platform without addressing the issue of critical importance to this country, and that is the continuation of the middle class tax cut, the continuation of unemployment benefits for those at risk of losing them, and a continuation of the access to doctors for all those 48 million seniors who rely on them daily for help.”

And that’s when the audio cut out. Seconds later, footage faded to a shot of the capitol from outside.

Moments later, someone at C-SPAN took to Twitter and explained: “C-SPAN has no control over the U.S. House TV cameras – the Speaker of the House does.”

It’s for reasons just like this, one might infer, that Boehner told C-SPAN back in February it would not be allowed control its own cameras.

Boehner’s office cuts off C-SPAN cameras as GOP takes verbal beating
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/2...takes-beating/

House GOP Refuses to Allow Dem Whip to Speak on Floor & Offer Senate Compromise And adjourns until Christmas Eve. This is a video of the feed cutting http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wV71OKdEqRI "This morning, Speaker Pro Tempore Michael Fitzpatrick (R-PA), under orders from Speaker Boehner, refused to allow Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer to speak on the floor and ask for unanimous consent to bring up the Senate bipartisan compromise to extend the payroll tax cut. Whip Hoyer and Congressman Chris Van Hollen are continuing to try to offer the Senate compromise even though Republicans walked off the floor. Once again, Republicans are risking a tax increase on 160 million Americans and the loss unemployment benefits for those who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own."

In other words, Boehner knows that if Hoyer brought up the Senate compromise for a vote, all Dems and most Republicans would vote for it and it would pass in a bipartisan manner (it passed 89-10 in the Senate bipartisan) - but because the 80 GOP Tea Party people didn't want it to pass, out of 435 members, Boehner refuses to let it be voted upon.

Your GOP at work in Congress. Still the Senate Repubs have abandoned Boehner, leaving him here to hang out all by himself.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

just checked my work email and found this gem:

To: All Employees

Yup. This is real. Not a joke, nor something just happening off in Washington people don't really have to pay any attention to.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

just checked my work email and found this gem:

To: All Employees.

OK I call BS! Who do you work for?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yup. This is real. Not a joke, nor something just happening off in Washington people don't really have to pay any attention to.

it's working for us. it won't happen but i really wish there was a way to prevent the house from reconvening to accept the senate bill.

i almost feel sorry for boehner. outside of obama, he has the hardest job in washington.

he made a bad call on this. he's constantly watching his back for the inevitable challange to his leadership and he's probably guaranteed it now.

he has to fold. take a bullet. at least if he had taken a stand against the right and accepted the senate bill earlier he could have avoided the damage to his own party.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Those Senate Ba$tards (sic) already negotiated three compromises, two of which Boehner allegedly approved. The last compromise which Boehner didn't bring for a vote because it would pass, and the Tea Party didn't want it to.

Enjoy your Republican tax hike next month. I'm sure your face will appreciate the sacrifice your nose is making <g>

Thank you $100 isn't going to change my life one way or the other.

Get back to work Senate - others are still working why aren't you?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

OK I call BS! Who do you work for?

********

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me, but I'm a "Job Creator". I think it's you that are living off me! Stop complaining, and pay your increased taxes like a good Republican!)

How many jobs did u create?

And I'm not complaining. Out of all the taxes we pay the payroll tax is the fairest as it is equal. Get it now?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

OK I call BS! Who do you work for?

btw: why do you think human resources departments for large corporations (i work for one. it's ********) wouldn't need to be sending notices about changes in withholding?