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Old 03-09-2012, 04:35 PM
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Yeah, good thing we live in the good ole US of A where we are free and safe...We don't beat (most of us) or kill our wives..we just force them to have unwelcome invasive procedures...

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/l...ns-ar-1751642/
yeah, but that's somehow 'better' than the controls and abuses elsewhere. guess because the doctor sings god bless america while doing whatever pols demand whether his patient likes it or not.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:37 PM
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yeah, but that's somehow 'better' than the controls and abuses elsewhere. guess because the doctor sings god bless america while doing whatever pols demand whether his patient likes it or not.
C'mon, doctors want old politicians to tell them how to practice medicine
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Yeah, good thing we live in the good ole US of A where we are free and safe...We don't beat (most of us) or kill our wives..we just force them to have unwelcome invasive procedures...

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/l...ns-ar-1751642/
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Olivia Hall said the bill set a dangerous precedent that should worry people on both sides of the abortion debate.

"Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, you should be concerned that the government is mandating a medical procedure," she said



Hey Olivia you will love Obamacare where Govt mandates medical procedures for everything...
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Yeah like there totally isn't an attack on our basic liberties. I'm positive death panels aren't in our future. Jon Stewart mocked it!
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:22 PM
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Recent debate over contraception comes as GOP loses gains among women.




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The fragile gains Republicans had been making among female voters have been erased, a shift that has coincided with what has become a national shouting match over reproductive issues, potentially handing President Obama and the Democrats an enormous advantage this fall.

A number of polls show that Obama’s approval among women has risen significantly since December, even as it has remained flat among men. The same trend, which began before the controversy in recent weeks, is also showing up further down the ballot

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Old 03-10-2012, 02:41 PM
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it's funny that republicans say they want govt. out of healthcare, that there shouldn't be rules and regs forcing birth control coverage. it's just more govt. intrusion they say. it's private, not something that govt. should be intruding upon.
then they turn around and put rules and regs in place regarding treatment by doctors and women should those private goings on venture into the abortion zone.
but on the other hand you have democrats who want to legislate coverages, and then turn around and argue aginst legislation when it comes to abortion.

that is what you call blatant hypocrisy, with both engaging-which is typical of them in so many areas.

and we're the corn caught between the wheels in the mill.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:28 PM
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Hey Olivia you will love Obamacare where Govt mandates medical procedures for everything...
ObamaCares doesn't mandate any procedures at all.

The insurance companies mandate procedures right now, and always have dictated the medical care your doctor can provide, that they will pay for.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:42 PM
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but on the other hand you have democrats who want to legislate coverages, and then turn around and argue aginst legislation when it comes to abortion.

that is what you call blatant hypocrisy, with both engaging-which is typical of them in so many areas.

and we're the corn caught between the wheels in the mill.
My parents, on Medicare, don't mind at all that they are "caught between the wheels in the mill" with closure of the prescription drug donut hole, and the decreasing of costs for their Medicare copays. Those lifetime conservative Republicans are very grateful to the President and the Democrats for that. And they know that ObamaCare has provided that.

I'm grateful that I am caught in the "grinding wheel" that enables me to purchase health insurance now that actually covers my health problems, rather than excludes them at a higher cost!

Thank you, ObamaCares, the Dems, and the Pres.

Yes, the Dems feel women should be in control of their own bodies. The Republicans want to mandate Big Government Control of your healthcare.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:10 PM
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Report: Some papers won’t be running next week’s ‘Doonesbury’ strips

A Romenesko reader emails: “Next week’s ‘Doonesbury’ cartoons, on the Texas anti-abortion/mandatory ultrasound law, may cause some newspapers to use “Flashbacks” instead of the live cartoons.”

I asked around and was told that the Oregonian and Dallas Morning News are among the papers that have discussed pulling the strips. (I’ve left messages with editors at both newspapers to see what they’ve decided.) UPDATE: “We thought the strips were over the line for the comics pages and won’t be running them,” says Oregonian features editor JoLene Krawczak. “We’ll tell readers where they can read them online.”

UPDATE #2: The Dallas Morning News will run the strips, and have a story tomorrow about them.

UPDATE #3: Garry Trudeau talks about the strips.

The Chicago Tribune, which pulled “Doonesbury” strips in September and February, will be running them, says associate managing editor/entertainment Geoff Brown.

Here’s what’s in the strips:

Monday:
Young woman arrives for her pre-termination sonogram, is told to take a seat in the shaming room, a middle-aged male state legislator will be right with her.

Tuesday:
He asks her if this is her first visit to the center, she replies no, that she’s been using the contraceptive services for some time. He says, “I see. Do your parents know you’re a slut?”

Wednesday:
A different male is reading to her about the transvaginal exam process.



Thursday:
In the stirrups, she is telling a nurse that she doesn’t want a transvaginal exam. Doctor says “Sorry miss, you’re first trimester. The male Republicans who run Texas require that all abortion seekers be examined with a 10″ shaming wand.” She asks “Will it hurt?” Nurse says, “Well, it’s not comfortable, honey. But Texas feels you should have thought of that.” Doctor says, “By the authority invested in me by the GOP base, I thee rape.”

Friday
: Doctor is explaining that the Texas GOP requires her to have an intimate encounter with her fetus. He begins describing it to her. Last panel, he says, “Shall I describe it’s hopes and dreams?” She replies, “If it wants to be the next Rick Perry, I’ve made up my mind.”

Saturday:
Back in the reception area, she asks where she goes now for the actual abortion. Receptionist tells her there’s a 24-hour waiting period: “The Republican Party is hoping you get caught in a shame spiral and change your mind.” Last panel: She says, “A final indignity.” Receptionist replies, “Not quite. Here’s your bill.”

Is your newspaper using “Flashback” strips next week? Let me know at Jim@JimRomenesko.com.

Amy Nelson of the St. Paul Pioneer Press emails: “Re: Doonesbury strips. We are subbing in print at the Pioneer Press and directing readers to online if they want to read them. Not appropriate for Comics pages with its mix of Garfield and The Duplex and not a great solution to move them to the Opinion pages for a week. Just made the decision a few minutes ago.”

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/03/09/r...esbury-strips/
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