France-same shooter

Originally Posted by Danzig

'Authorities in Afghanistan confirmed that Merah had been arrested for bomb making in the lawless southern province of Kandahar in 2007 but escaped months later in a massive Taliban prison break.'

And there you have it folks. How did he get in France?

This seems like a Patsy to me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

And there you have it folks. How did he get in France?

This seems like a Patsy to me.

he's a citizen of france. not sure for how long. perhaps all his life? they also arrested his girlfriend and his brother.

[rpncaine]

Traced him thru his brothers computer IP address. Used it to look at add for motorcycle posted by one of the paratroopers he killed.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except Christians evolved beyond the Crusades and are no longer killing in the name of the invisible man. Now, like Santorum the radical ones are trying to preserve life, at any cost, over-ruling individual choice and they're considered anti-women.

When will the Radical Islamists follow suit?

And when will the less radical Muslims begin to respect womens' rights or women for that matter, much less individual choice.

Rick Santorum is such an awesome christian. He loves those alive babies.. unless you are born a woman, or gay.. or god forbid born into a spanish speaking family.

He gives christians SUCH a good name. I think I'll go to bible study tonight.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When was the last Klan killing?

Admittedly they are the al qaeda of the Christian religion yet mainly because of Christians, are no longer much of a threat

you are correct

Martin Luther King Jr was a good christian.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When was the last Klan killing?

Admittedly they are the al qaeda of the Christian religion yet mainly because of Christians, are no longer much of a threat

actually:

Number of U.S. Hate Groups Is Rising, Report Says
By KIM SEVERSON
Published: March 7, 2012


ATLANTA — Fed by antagonism toward President Obama, resentment toward changing racial demographics and the economic rift between rich and poor, the number of so-called hate groups and antigovernment organizations in the nation has continued to grow, according to a report released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The center, which has kept track of such groups for 30 years, recorded 1,018 hate groups operating last year.

The number of groups whose ideology is organized against specific racial, religious, sexual or other characteristics has risen steadily since 2000, when 602 were identified, the center said. Antigay groups, for example, have risen to 27 from 17 in 2010.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/us...ef=todayspaper

[Danzig]

and this:




The KKK is also suffering from a proliferation of competitors. People who wanted to join a white supremacist movement back in the 1920s didn’t have a lot of choices. Today, there are countless options, enabling an extremist to find a group that matches his personal brand of intolerance. The more extreme groups in the burgeoning patriot movement cater to anti-Muslim, homophobic, and xenophobic sentiment, with less animosity toward African-Americans and Jews. Aryan Nations offers a heavy focus on Christian identity. Some groups preach more violence, while others offer a veneer of intellectualism.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...isrc=sl_iphone

[Antitrust32]

i thought most of the aryon's follow odenism (sp?) not christianity.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i thought most of the aryon's follow odenism (sp?) not christianity.

never heard of it.

i wonder if they took their name from a subsect of christianity back in the days of constantine, when he oulawed aryanism? i'll have to look up odenism.

[Danzig]

it's odinism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinic_Rite

didn't see any reference to the aryan group tho.


aryan nation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nation

Aryan Nations is a white supremacist religious organization originally based in Hayden Lake, Idaho. Richard Girnt Butler founded the group in the 1970s, as an arm of the Christian Identity organization Church of Jesus Christ–Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a "terrorist threat",[1] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network" in the US.[2]

[Danzig]

and look what else i found, an older article:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/schuster.column/

An unholy alliance
Aryan Nation leader reaches out to al Qaeda
By Henry Schuster
CNN
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 Posted: 1942 GMT (0342 HKT)


Editor's Note: Henry Schuster, a senior producer in CNN's Investigative Unit, has been covering terrorism for more than a decade. Each week in "Tracking Terror," he reports on the people and organizations driving international and domestic terrorism and efforts to combat those. He is the author of the newly published book, "Hunting Eric Rudolph."


SEBRING, Florida (CNN) -- A couple of hours up the road from where some September 11 hijackers learned to fly, the new head of Aryan Nation is praising them -- and trying to create an unholy alliance between his white supremacist group and al Qaeda.

"You say they're terrorists, I say they're freedom fighters. And I want to instill the same jihadic feeling in our peoples' heart, in the Aryan race, that they have for their father, who they call Allah."

With his long beard and potbelly, August Kreis looks more like a washed up member of ZZ Top than an aspiring revolutionary.

Don't let appearances fool you: his résumé includes stops at some of America's nastiest extremist groups -- Posse Comitatus, the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he's a citizen of france. not sure for how long. perhaps all his life? they also arrested his girlfriend and his brother.

Glad they got him.

[Danzig]

so far refusing to give himself up. and more details emerging on the suspect:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/21/wo...ntent=My+Yahoo

Merah was sentenced 15 times by a Toulouse juvenile court when he was a minor, Molins said.

He was back in a Toulouse court February 24 for causing an accident with injuries and driving without a license and was sentenced to a month in jail, his lawyer Christian Etelin said on BFM-TV.

He had not begun serving that sentence, Etelin said.

The attorney also said Merah went to Afghanistan two years ago.

He was sent back to France after Afghan police picked him up at a traffic stop and alerted international forces to his presence, Molins said.

The French defense ministry said Merah had twice tried to join the French military. His first attempt was in the northern city of Lille, where he was refused because of prior convictions, and his second, in July 2010, was in Toulouse, where he sought to join the Foreign Legion but left during the first round of tests.

The suspect belongs to a group called Forsane Alizza, or Knights of Glory, Gueant said.



........guy sounds like he's always had issues-so i guess he found a group that would 'accept' him. you see similar behaviors with those who join other hate groups, with the two columbine killers, etc.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so far refusing to give himself up. and more details emerging on the suspect:

Still!? Thought they got him hours ago!

Not much of a dedicated militant jihadist if he's trying to stay alive and escape.

[Antitrust32]

they should blow his head off and save time

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

they should blow his head off and save time

i'm sure they want him alive and in one piece to see what info they can glean from him, if any.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm sure they want him alive and in one piece to see what info they can glean from him, if any.

Unfortunately true. Anti had an excellent suggestion, however.

[Danzig]

they still haven't got the guy out-unbelievable.


and boy, it sure gets quiet in this room after 2 or so.

It's almost croissant time. Might want to get him some espresso too.

[DaTruth]

Danzig, the campaign we have been conducting since 9/11 may not be against Islam per se, but it is definitely against militant Islam. Al qaeda is as much a religious movement as it is a political movement.