Attack on the First Amendment

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

Me, too! I guess I'll have to go with Romney now

Good choice, he doesn't need no steenkin teleprompter...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Such a horrible thing that is, being empathic and trying not to hurt other people and make them feel like $hit all the time.

yeah, it's so horrible that guys like Howard Stern are allowed on the radio

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah, it's so horrible that guys like Howard Stern are allowed on the radio

Cool straw man, Lori!

We should argue about that thing that I totally never said!

[Antitrust32]

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that this thread was not about radio hosts being censored by the government.

[Antitrust32]

whoever came up with the word "straw man" should be shot.

we're not in Kansas anymore.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that this thread was not about radio hosts being censored by the government.

Glad you realized it now.

If you think a city council passing something that really boils down to, "we'd like it if you would be nicer," with absolutely zero teeth or consequences to it is government censorship, then we have a really fundamental disagreement about exactly what censorship is. I'm really glad the real meaning of government censorship is not your definition of it, because we'd live in an awfully scary place if that were the case.

Enjoy the afternoon!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

whoever came up with the word "straw man" should be shot.

we're not in Kansas anymore.

I can edit it to "nonsensical, illogical argument," if you'd like?

[Antitrust32]

I have no problem with people who call a womens basketball team nappy headed ho's being fired from his or her EMPLOYER for saying those words.

I do have a problem with a city counsel wasting taxpayers time and money with a resolution that goes against the consitution anyway.

shock jock radio hosts should really concern themselves with political correctness. nobody cares to be entertained anyway.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I have no problem with people who call a womens basketball team nappy headed ho's being fired from his or her EMPLOYER for saying those words.

I do have a problem with a city counsel wasting taxpayers time and money with a resolution that goes against the consitution anyway.

shock jock radio hosts should really concern themselves with political correctness. nobody cares to be entertained anyway.

A law outlawing sexist and racist language? That'd be a big problem, and also against the Constitution.

Thank goodness that's not what happened here!

And while YMMV, if your entertainment relies on "shock" and offense and hurt to other people, then good for you, your entertainment sucks and is incredibly uncreative, IMO. But what do I know, I'm just too sensitive and liberal to understand the sheer joy and entertainment in tearing other people down. Sounds like a ton of fun I'm missing out on.

And more importantly, because this is what you're hung up on, my entire premise is not that Maher, Limbaugh, Stern, or any other run of the mill jackass who relies on hurting other people to succeed should be off the air. It's great that they're on the air. Free Speech: that's what it's for!

But when Maher gets defensive and plays the victim when called out for calling Sarah Palin a "c***," and Limbaugh for his words, and however many other great examples there are of these people complaining about their free speech, everyone gets up in arms defending them for their right to it.

And I'm right there with you, because I also believe in their right to say whatever they want -- but PLEASE let's stop confusing criticism of a person's use of their right to free speech and an urging that they avoid harmful words to an attempt to deny their right of free speech.

[Antitrust32]

people like maher and rush certainly deserve to be criticized by there listeners, non listeners or peers for some of the worthless shi.t they spew.

I'm just saying, it's completely unnecessary and wasteful for a city councel to use taxpayer dime and time to come up with this resolution.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

people like maher and rush certainly deserve to be criticized by there listeners, non listeners or peers for some of the worthless shi.t they spew.

I'm just saying, it's completely unnecessary and wasteful for a city councel to use taxpayer dime and time to come up with this resolution.

Wish you would've just said that in the first place.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Wish you would've just said that in the first place.

no problem tin man

[Danzig]

just want to reiterate i also don't see this as censorship, but i am with lori that it's a waste of time by the council.
loss of viewers/listeners is the only censorship these 'shock' jocks have to worry about. i don't listen to any of them or watch them on t.v. i find them useless.
i'd also imagine that the city councils attempt only resulted in increased listeners for the show.

It's just so phony. Make the offended take a lie detector test and execute them on spot if they really aren't offended and just some vindictive cowardly douche who want to ruin people's lives by feigning offense to WORDS.

And the ones who are truly offended then they are immediately sterilized.

Problem solved

[Danzig]

you have to wonder coach when someone tries to get on these guys for calling a person a crack whore-when that person died with coke in their system.

Originally Posted by Danzig

you have to wonder coach when someone tries to get on these guys for calling a person a crack whore-when that person died with coke in their system.

They are safe zone bullies. Going after their own by manipulating people like brian who are hyper-sensitive to bullying. Meanwhile they'll call him all those bad words off the grid and in private.

In 'evolved' places like southern cal you have a closeted gay man having a mental breakdown jacking off in public and acting like a super queen. All of this was avoidable but because bullying is looked down upon nobody in school reminded him he was gay.

Bullying is good

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

They are safe zone bullies. Going after their own by manipulating people like brian who are hyper-sensitive to bullying. Meanwhile they'll call him all those bad words off the grid and in private.

Interesting that when someone feels a certain way about something you disagree with, they've been manipulated, or they're "sheep," because they can't think independently about what affects them and how certain things make them feel. No, that cannot be reached without manipulation.

But if we sat around all day together watching Zeitgeist and talking about how awesome Ron Paul is and making our best plans for the New World Order, I'd all the sudden be a liberated free-thinker, because those opinions that YOU share can only be reached through critical thinking uninfluenced by outside factors.

I happen to think that both conspiracy theorists AND people who think that a little bit of empathy would go a long way in this world can think for themselves.

Neat how that works. Carry on.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

In 'evolved' places like southern cal you have a closeted gay man having a mental breakdown jacking off in public and acting like a super queen. All of this was avoidable but because bullying is looked down upon nobody in school reminded him he was gay.

Bullying is good

And thanks to Pillow's predictable assholedness, I just won a nice bet

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Interesting that when someone feels a certain way about something you disagree with, they've been manipulated, or they're "sheep," because they can't think independently about what affects them and how certain things make them feel. No, that cannot be reached without manipulation.

But if we sat around all day together watching Zeitgeist and talking about how awesome Ron Paul is and making our best plans for the New World Order, I'd all the sudden be a liberated free-thinker, because those opinions that YOU share can only be reached through critical thinking uninfluenced by outside factors.

I happen to think that both conspiracy theorists AND people who think that a little bit of empathy would go a long way in this world can think for themselves.

Neat how that works. Carry on.

You're a liberal idiot and would never believe in nwo or Ron Paul and saying otherwise would be a lie.

Face it you're a smug hypocrite that works or worked for a corporate monstrosity that takes advantage of poor people.

Nobody with any spirit wants to tapdance around your issues. F.uck off we all have problems sissy