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Old 04-04-2012, 05:59 PM
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why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne
Seems like Ahmed Zayat has a hand in all this. He's throwing everything to the fan and hoping something sticks. The hopeless thing he ran in the Florida Derby betrayed his mindset.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:38 PM
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He doesn't have a horse in the Wood, Lexington, or Illinois Derby. He also passed on the Louisiana and Florida Derbies.


I noted that his horses in the SA Derby were second-stringers. Seattleallstar had a valid reason to question why Baffert would put his two top candidates in the same race.


No, he didn't.


But you said there weren't a lot of options, yet there are. And Baffert isn't running out of options, he's simply not utilizing the other spots for some reason, which is kind of odd, considering he's started and had previous success in the Wood, Louisiana Derby, and Lexington.
i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:05 PM
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why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne
Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:20 AM
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Maybe he is trying to win the Arkansan derby and get them both eligible for the Kentucky Derby
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:51 AM
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Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:55 PM
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i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.
Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:58 PM
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Secret Circle does not need the win, or the earnings. His jockey could hold him back a bit in the lane, allowing Bodemeister to secure the win or place(that place money at least puts him on the bubble, that's more than the S.A. Derby's purse would).

Baffert instructs the jocks, despite the horses' separate owners, to plan accordingly, does he not?
While I agree that the move is odd, the last time I checked holding a horse back is called race fixing.

Though, having said that, Herve Fillion was an expert at this.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:17 PM
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Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.
he's crossing them to get to oaklawn.

i just don't understand why some posters think it odd he'd have a multiple entry at oaklawn, when he has multiple entries at santa anita for the derby. i think in the norfolk every year he has more than one entrant. it happens, so what?
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:56 PM
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Ahmed Zayat, the owner of Bodemeister, on Sunday said he would speak to Baffert first before naming a rider for the Derby. Mike Smith rode Bodemeister for the first time Saturday, a choice made by Baffert, who had Rafael Bejarano stick with Secret Circle. Bejarano had also been riding Bodemeister.
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:53 PM
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hearing smith is going to stay on Bode
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:12 PM
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hearing smith is going to stay on Bode
It is the shocker of the day. Baffert has confirmed on twitter Smith riding Bode in Derby.
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It is the shocker of the day. Baffert has confirmed on twitter Smith riding Bode in Derby.
i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:17 PM
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i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.
I thought my sarcasm was apparent without an emoticon. Sorry.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:13 PM
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I thought my sarcasm was apparent without an emoticon. Sorry.


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Old 04-15-2012, 05:30 PM
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i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.
I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.

Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:08 PM
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I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.
Bet those horses breathed a huge sigh of relief.

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Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.
How much would have it cost the horse if you were lowered onto its back?

Talk about checks your body can't cash...
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:19 PM
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I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.

Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:29 PM
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Bet those horses breathed a huge sigh of relief.


How much would have it cost the horse if you were lowered onto its back?

Talk about checks your body can't cash...
Yeah man.

He's got the looks of Rosie, the weight of Roseanne and the athleticism of Kathy Bates.
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