BREAKING: Second source confirms Reid's allegations Romney paid no taxes for 10 year

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Originally Posted by Danzig

that's why i posted the link to the story about unemployment; that the numbers aren't lower because people are getting work-it's they've stopped looking. so, they're still out of work.

it's worrisome that job growth is lower than at the beginning of the year, and they're not expecting it to get better. and it certainly is an issue that unemployment is artificially lower-it's not due to hiring. and with jobs not keeping pace with those out of work, and with labor growth....it's a worsening situation when you get down to it.

then there's the fact that ouput is higher with five million less workers. that is a good sign for those employed. but if those companies can do more with less, why would they hire?



and just saw this, from an article on yahoo business:

But the unemployment rate ticked up to 8.3% and the so-called real unemployment rate (U6) rose to 15% even as the labor force shrank by 150,000.


one thing that admin keeps pushing for, is increases in teaching, police and fire hiring. i disagree. better to put money into infrastructure spending, which increases construction and other hiring. that way, private sectors hire, rather than adding to government employment. government is an expense, a drain, it's not profitable. private hiring on the other hand, doesn't cause an added drain. private companies would hire, buy more equipment, etc, etc. and we all know that we have bridges and roads that needed repairing or replacing decades ago. that's where the stimulus should have been directed, towards actual jobs, actual work. not adding to public sector jobs, or banks, etc. explains why we saw no benefit from all that added debt.

Running lean is the new model. It hasn't taken very long to figure out that a lot of people weren't really all that important within the system. A person that actually works for 40 hours a week can accomplish a lot.
We are not corporate but have learned that 1 good employee that can multi-task (I know, technically impossible) is better than 2 with a supervisor, so 3 actually.
Wife is in pharma and they are trimming loads of fat and heaping work onto the remainders and after a month or two everyone is cool.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...about_it_.html


The Jobs Stall
For 18 months we’ve been on track to never return to full employment—why won’t the Federal Reserve do something?
By Matthew Yglesias|Posted Friday, Aug. 3, 2012, at 11:41 AM ET

The underlying reality from the more precise establishment survey was sunnier—a net addition of 163,000 is a decent number. Except that in broader context, there’s nothing decent about it. Across the first half of 2012, the economy’s added 151,000 jobs per month. Across 2011, the number was 153,000 per month. Those are the kind of numbers a healthy economy would be adding. But the American economy didn’t start this period in a healthy place, and needs to be adding jobs at double or triple that rate to get us back to full employment.



Just on Wednesday the Federal Reserve’s Open Market Committee met and proclaimed that “economic activity decelerated somewhat” in recent months and that it anticipated “that the unemployment rate will decline only slowly toward levels that it judges to be consistent with its dual mandate.” The guardians of macroeconomic stability, in other words, knew nothing particularly good was coming. And the truly shocking thing isn’t the news but the proposed response—to do nothing different.

[Danzig]

and from that article, regarding congress:

Here in the United States, Congress is naturally prepared to make things even worse. At the end of 2012 the Bush tax cuts are scheduled to expire fully. This is somewhat perverse in light of the combination of high unemployment and ultra-low interest rates that militates in favor of bigger rather than smaller budget deficits. But what makes it especially perverse is that Democrats and Republicans both favor extending the majority of the tax cuts. The disagreement is only over the extension of reductions on marginal rates beyond the first $250,000 in taxable income. Democrats want to bring those back to their pre-Bush level. Republicans don’t. And in order to try to preserve their leverage, Republicans are refusing to vote for the tax-cut extension that both parties favor unless Democrats will throw the high-rate cuts in as well.


please consider the above when deciding on what congressional candidates you're planning to vote for. also, keep in mind that the majority of americans DO NOT FAVOR extending the tax cuts to the top income earners. you know, the ones paying less taxes than they have in most of the last century.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

damn that george bush.

Nice to see you come around...now we have 3 on our side...

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No tax cuts for anyone. Not until the bills are paid.

Not that they would do that with the extra cash though. That would go toward, "strengthening the 'middle class'", of course.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GPK

Jon Stewart. Everyone's favorite.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...aYSX_blog.html

Watched that the other nite, funny stuff...He whacked ole Harry...Loved his clips of the Fox talking heads, Gretchen the airhead is the best...Notice how they all use the phrase 'people are saying' or 'I heard others say'...On a show year ago Stewart says, 'Yeah, you heard it from the guy on the show before you'...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Nice to see you come around...now we have 3 on our side...

i agree with washington and madison, and others, regarding political parties. i'm not on a 'side'.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree with washington and madison, and others, regarding political parties. i'm not on a 'side'.

Excuuuuuuuuuuse me...j/k....I knew that...

[bigrun]

WARSAW, POLAND—World leader and president of Poland Bronisław Komorowski was reportedly puzzled Tuesday as to why he had just met with a man who was apparently the governor of Massachusetts six years ago. "That person currently holds no position of power, so I'm not sure why I would have any sort of high-level talk with him," Komorowski was overheard saying to his advisers, adding that as a head of state with a busy schedule he shouldn’t be taking meetings with just anyone. "Essentially, I just had an hourlong conversation with an unemployed American man." According to sources, when reminded that the individual he had met also ran the Winter Olympics in 2002, Komorowski responded, "Who gives a shit?"

http://www.theonion.com/articles/wor...-the-fo,29010/

[Thepaindispenser]

Riot please keep amusing me with your attempts to spin the horrendous unemployment numbers and in defending that filthy, corrupt liar Harry Reid. Reid was just using the methods of the most corrupt political machine in the history of US politics, the Chicago Democrats, which is to throw out false allegations with no proof against an opponent and then call for the opponent to provide proof. Only morons defend that tired old act. I have a question for you Riot, why won't Obama release his college transcripts? Is he afraid that the rest of America will know what most of us already know, that Obama ia a brain-celled challenged idiot. All one has to do is listen to his constant "uh uh uh" during debates and his constant gaffes when he doesn't have a Teleprompter in front of him.

Obama continues to defy history. Before him, generally the bigger the recession, the stronger the recovery. 8.25% or 8.3% are pathetic, anemic numbers, especially when you consider how many people have dropped out of the job market and aren't even counted. If you include those people, the unemployment rate is over 11%.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Riot please keep amusing me with your attempts to spin the horrendous unemployment numbers and in defending that filthy, corrupt liar Harry Reid. Reid was just using the methods of the most corrupt political machine in the history of US politics, the Chicago Democrats, which is to throw out false allegations with no proof against an opponent and then call for the opponent to provide proof. Only morons defend that tired old act. I have a question for you Riot, why won't Obama release his college transcripts? Is he afraid that the rest of America will know what most of us already know, that Obama ia a brain-celled challenged idiot. All one has to do is listen to his constant "uh uh uh" during debates and his constant gaffes when he doesn't have a Teleprompter in front of him.

Obama continues to defy history. Before him, generally the bigger the recession, the stronger the recovery. 8.25% or 8.3% are pathetic, anemic numbers, especially when you consider how many people have dropped out of the job market and aren't even counted. If you include those people, the unemployment rate is over 11%.

Welcome to the board! Riot uses these exact techniques, she will often post links to thousands of pages of nonsense to support her position and tell you to find it, so it is not surprising that she would fall for this complete nonsense.

Like the President, she will constantly attack Romney instead of being able to truthfully push Obama's accomplishments. Be careful of getting into the Riot vortex, she gets nasty and always has to have the last word.

[Thepaindispenser]

Thanks Pointman and to Riot, bring it on! Thoughtless liberal sheep like her who faithfully spew David Axelrod's lies and propaganda to coverup for ideas and policies that failed all over the world last century do not intimidate me.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Thanks Pointman and to Riot, bring it on! Thoughtless liberal sheep like her who faithfully spew David Axelrod's lies and propaganda to coverup for ideas and policies that failed all over the world last century do not intimidate me.

Facts have little effect, be warned.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by pointman

Welcome to the board! Riot uses these exact techniques, she will often post links to thousands of pages of nonsense to support her position and tell you to find it, so it is not surprising that she would fall for this complete nonsense.

Like the President, she will constantly attack Romney instead of being able to truthfully push Obama's accomplishments. Be careful of getting into the Riot vortex, she gets nasty and always has to have the last word.

She's gonna get you soon as she gets off work...and she will lay you out with the true facts.....not that stuff you make up...

Signed:
Lackey boy..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Riot please keep amusing me with your attempts to spin the horrendous unemployment numbers and in defending that filthy, corrupt liar Harry Reid. Reid was just using the methods of the most corrupt political machine in the history of US politics, the Chicago Democrats, which is to throw out false allegations with no proof against an opponent and then call for the opponent to provide proof. Only morons defend that tired old act. I have a question for you Riot, why won't Obama release his college transcripts? Is he afraid that the rest of America will know what most of us already know, that Obama ia a brain-celled challenged idiot. All one has to do is listen to his constant "uh uh uh" during debates and his constant gaffes when he doesn't have a Teleprompter in front of him.

Obama continues to defy history. Before him, generally the bigger the recession, the stronger the recovery. 8.25% or 8.3% are pathetic, anemic numbers, especially when you consider how many people have dropped out of the job market and aren't even counted. If you include those people, the unemployment rate is over 11%.

Geeshus. At least do better trying to hide your ususal "posting style", so it's not so easy to tell who you really are

[Riot]

Ah, politics ...

The only politician who doesn't reveal his income taxes is one who has something to hide.

Romney could embarrass Harry Reid so severely, prove Reid a liar, cause Reid to have to resign his position as Leader due to embarrassment - yet doesn't.

The reason Mittens hasn't released his tax returns is because what's in there has been determined by the campaign to be more damaging than this day-after-day loss in the news cycle about his tax returns.

I think it's either tax amnesty, or hiding money from his church (Reid is a more powerful Mormon in the Church than Romney)

You don't see The Maverick John McCain - who has actually seen 23 years of Mittens tax returns - either saying anything against Harry Reid, or standing up for Romney. Don't forget Reid also made this accusation on the very floor of the Senate, read into the Senate record - a hallowed, respected area for truth telling. McCain isn't calling Reid a liar, nor even offering up a word in support of Romney. Total silence. McCain will call out BS in a minute. He's silent on Harry Reid, and he's seen Romney's tax returns.

Romney is a proven liar about his taxes - in 2002 he lied to the public repeatedly, day after day, until he was publicly caught (reference what residency he used to file his taxes, exposed by Boston Globe in 2002). So there is zero reason to believe Romney about taxes now.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

Geeshus. At least do better trying to hide your ususal "posting style", so it's not so easy to tell who you really are

I was thinking a new and worse coach panties...Do i get a cigar?

Signed,
Inspector Clouseau

[dellinger63]

How many people have gone on SSID? I heard it was 1.6 million. $20 billion a year money wise.

What's really horrible is not only are these people unemployed they're (a portion) stealing money out of the neediest of the needy's mouths.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

How many people have gone on SSID? I heard it was 1.6 million. $20 billion a year money wise.

What's really horrible is not only are these people unemployed they're (a portion) stealing money out of the neediest of the needy's mouths.

People on SSDI are permanently disabled to such a great extent, they are unable to work. They certainly qualify as "needy".

Here, Dell - as American and Christian values seem to make you angry and point out your selfishness and hate for others, I found another place for you, that is a Libertarian's dream - I'm sure you'll love it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

[bigrun]

Stewart last nite on Judith Miller/Cheney...


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...-2012-tim-gunn