And the "Secret Special Speaker" at tonights GOP convention is ...

[Rudeboyelvis]

[geeker2]

My favorite part of his comedy act...


I would just like to say something, ladies and gentlemen.
Something that I think is very important. It is that, you, we
-- we own this country.

We -- we own it. It is not you owning it, and not
politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours.

And -- so -- they are just going to come around and beg
for votes every few years. It is the same old deal. But I just
think it is important that you realize , that you're the best in
the world. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether
you're libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should
not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we
got to let them go.

[bigrun]

One of many

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by geeker2

My favorite part of his comedy act...


I would just like to say something, ladies and gentlemen.
Something that I think is very important. It is that, you, we
-- we own this country.

We -- we own it. It is not you owning it, and not
politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours.

And -- so -- they are just going to come around and beg
for votes every few years. It is the same old deal. But I just
think it is important that you realize , that you're the best in
the world. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether
you're libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should
not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we
got to let them go.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

My favorite part of his comedy act...


I would just like to say something, ladies and gentlemen.
Something that I think is very important. It is that, you, we
-- we own this country.

We -- we own it. It is not you owning it, and not
politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours.

And -- so -- they are just going to come around and beg
for votes every few years. It is the same old deal. But I just
think it is important that you realize , that you're the best in
the world. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether
you're libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should
not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we
got to let them go.

good point made in that part of the speech.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

good point made in that part of the speech.

Yes, all the "I refuse to vote, both parties are the same" crowd ought to read it carefully.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, all the "I refuse to vote, both parties are the same" crowd ought to read it carefully.

For the record, he's a Libertarian.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/30/47820

Call me crazy (you usually do) but I doubt the Marxist currently occupying the White House will offer anyone with contrasting views an opportunity to speak at his little party next week.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

For the record, he's a Libertarian.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/30/47820

Call me crazy (you usually do) but I doubt the Marxist currently occupying the White House will offer anyone with contrasting views an opportunity to speak at his little party next week.

Riot believes that anyone who doesn't love Obama and follow him hook, line and sinker is a conservative Republican who is an anti-abortion, gun fanatic, racist, anti-female, anti-gay, rich old white man.

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, all the "I refuse to vote, both parties are the same" crowd ought to read it carefully.

Yeah I did. Still not voting for the two puppets.

Can't put us all in two groups, supah trollololololol.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah I did. Still not voting for the two puppets.

Can't put us all in two groups, supah trollololololol.

'yer either with us, or agin us'.

[Riot]

My point, for those here that clearly missed it, was agreeing with Eastwood that we are responsible for what our government does. You don't have to vote Dem or GOP - but you have to participate in the political process, and ultimately vote.

Our government is exactly what we have chosen over the years. Bitching about it is easy, changing it hard, saying it's too hard to change is lazy.

Clint was elected Mayor as a Republican, describes himself as Libertarian at times, but supports environmental causes, believes in right to abortion, and helping the poor. Fiscally conservative, socially generous. He's basically an old-school "Eisenhower Republican"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

For the record, he's a Libertarian.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/30/47820

Call me crazy (you usually do) but I doubt the Marxist currently occupying the White House will offer anyone with contrasting views an opportunity to speak at his little party next week.

You really need to look up what a "marxist" is, because if you honestly think Obama is a marxist (or a communist), yes, you are indeed crazy.

He's basically useless like George Clooney. A paid shill that the sheep know.
Either he's nuts or doesn't know what he stands for. Because Mitt Romney is anything but conservative.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He's basically useless like George Clooney. A paid shill that the sheep know.
Either he's nuts or doesn't know what he stands for. Because Mitt Romney is anything but conservative.

Mitt is whatever Adelson and the Kochs want him to be. Romney's concern as president will be the success of private business, period.

If Romney gets elected and owns enough guys in congress, he will deregulate and privatize all the treasury funds he can (Medicare and ACA, Social Security, defense spending)

The Tea Party and all the social crap, the race-baiting, the religious extremism, the outrageously conservative GOP platform, etc. is just a distraction for the little people and media - it's part of the Lions-Christians Colosseum show mix put on by the Emperors to make the some still want to vote "R" They are being used.

This is not to say Dems are without fault. But I think the Democratic Party is still a real political party. The current GOP is not. The best that would happen is for the Libertarians/Tea Party to refuse to cowtow to Romney and friends, and create a strong third party to replace the fading former Republican (read businessman) Party's place as the alternative major party in the country.

[bigrun]

Mixed Legacy of George W. Bush Hovers Over Tampa

Where is George W. Bush?

The last Republican president was a no-show at the Republican convention this week. And the party that he led for eight years barely mentioned him — or his record.

Hmmmm, wonder why..

Nevertheless, Bush's fiscal legacy — including hundreds of billions spent on two wars that helped balloon the federal deficit — loomed large over the gathering, as Republicans tried to make the case that the Republican Party was the party of smaller government and restrained spending.

We want smaller government....except when we are in the big house..

The legacy of the Bush years complicates Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's case against Obama as both fight to win over an electorate frustrated by the nation's enormous debt and budget-busting deficits.

Bush had 8 years to fk us up, now big O needs 4 more to fix it..

But Bush's record isn't far behind with a $4.9 trillion increase over his eight years in office. Republicans unhappy with Bush's fiscal record often cite the Republican's financial industry bailout in 2008, a whopping $700 billion, as akin to stimulus and bailout programs under Obama. They seldom complain about his huge tax cuts, which also drove up the red ink.

Those 1 percenters need those tax breaks so they can create jobs!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...tampa-17120770

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by pointman

Riot believes that anyone who doesn't love Obama and follow him hook, line and sinker is a conservative Republican who is an anti-abortion, gun fanatic, racist, anti-female, anti-gay, rich old white man.

Racist.

Hey you know what I noticed last weekend?

You had this incredible day... just brilliant.

So not to get too personal or anything but do you suppose there was any kinda correlation between your truly phenomenal day and the fact that weren't down here having a toxic play date?

Just wondering.

I think the better outcome is Obama getting re-elected.

The conservatives will b.itch and moan but life will go on.

If Obama loses there could be riots in big cities...thus all the weird supply orders by big brother

[Alabama Stakes]

old people are like children, they should be seen and not heard.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think the better outcome is Obama getting re-elected.

The conservatives will b.itch and moan but life will go on.

"Conservative" in the USA as represented by the GOP is fractured and destroyed. There is the John Birch Society types, the Pat Robertson/Rick Santorum religious zealots; then the Libertarians who don't want to be associated with those loons.

The "moderate and intellectual conservatives" (Colin Powell, etc) have abandoned and call themselves independents. Jeb Bush is hanging on to the party, but he see's what is going down, as does Condi Rice.

The Republican Party brand is now a shell corporation owned by Romney-Adelson-Koch types. Citizens United was a big step in that.

The Libertarians and Paulites have figured it out. They won't play with that GOP any more. That's good for the country.

Best hope in my eyes for a strong two-party system is if the Libertarians/Paulites create a new strong party to replace the current shell corporation.

They need votes, though, so that puts the religious loons back up for grabs, being fought over by the shell corp and the Libertarians.

If Obama loses there could be riots in big cities...thus all the weird supply orders by big brother

The threats of violence are coming from the Obama-hating far right. Seriously, I'm more worried about violence when he wins.

And I say "when", because I don't see any road for Romney to purchase 270 electoral votes at this time. But anything can happen.

[my miss storm cat]

Re the political forum... sometimes I feel like I've stumbled into the bumpersticker mentality Olympics.