planned p'hood=racist baby killers

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comp...ind=468&cat=10

abortions
52%white-40%black-7%other

http://facts.kff.org/chart.aspx?ch=364

population
64%white-12%black-remainder is other

there you have it. staggering math when you think about it and proves the coach's point.

Mmm 12% of the population accounting for 40% of abortions? It obviously has nothing to do with race!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Mmm 12% of the population accounting for 40% of abortions? It obviously has nothing to do with race!

Why do you jump to the completely unevidenced assumption those numbers have to do with race, and not poverty or place of residence and access to medical?

What evidence do you have that abortion is racially-based purposeful extermination? And if so, how do you account for the fact that the vast majority of abortions in this country are white people, not blacks, not other minorities?

Like Joey said ... disgusting.

Oh - and 12% of the population only accounts for about 34% of abortions.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why do you jump to the completely unevidenced assumption those numbers have to do with race, and not poverty or place of residence and access to medical?

What evidence do you have that abortion is racially-based purposeful extermination? Like Joey said ... disgusting.

Oh - and 12% of the population only accounts for about 34% of abortions.

Kaiser data is flawed? Why would they make it up?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Kaiser data is flawed? Why would they make it up?

Why are you ignoring the data I posted? You saying it is flawed?

And, again, I'll repeat the question to you, that you have yet to answer: are you taking the position that there is a deliberate racial extermination of unborn children going on? Yes or no? Who is perpetuating this? And if so, why are the vast majority of abortions in this country performed on white women?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why are you ignoring the data I posted? You saying it is flawed?

And, again, I'll repeat the question to you, that you have yet to answer: are you taking the position that there is a deliberate racial extermination of unborn children going on? Yes or no? Who is perpetuating this? And if so, why are the vast majority of abortions in this country performed on white women?

I am saying a link to a respected medical data research company is likely to have the accurate statistics vs. your uncredited charts.
I am taking that position, yes and believe it has been going on since the early 70's. Who is behind it? Same people behind everything else is my guess.
The "vast majority" of abortions in this country are performed on white women in this country because that is what there are the most of. Math does not lie, that understanding is what separates real conservatives from liberals. Numbers are simple and honest.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am saying a link to a respected medical data research company is likely to have the accurate statistics vs. your uncredited charts.

Excuse me, my charts are not uncredited, the link and source, very well respected, is provided. How dare you diss info out of hand, in ignorance, info you clearly haven't even bother to click on.

Are you not to be trusted to debate honestly?

And, again: why do you blame abortion incidences on an unproven association with race, and not the proven association with poverty? Are all the medical ethicists and statisticians just ignoring your find?

I am taking that position, yes and believe it has been going on since the early 70's. Who is behind it? Same people behind everything else is my guess.

Who is that? Who are the people who have been deliberately exterminating unborn black babies since the 1970's, even though white babies are the most aborted?

And why would the rabidly anti-abortion party be white, and the pro-abortion party be composed of whites, blacks and minorites? That's pretty weird, huh? Kind of opposite of what you claim?

Math does not lie, that understanding is what separates real conservatives from liberals. Numbers are simple and honest.

Yes, indeed - understanding math, reality and science is indeed what separates many current conservatives from everybody else in the world As Rick Santorum said so well just the other day, "We'll never have the smart people with us"

[Clip-Clop]

http://news.yahoo.com/african-americ...-election.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://news.yahoo.com/african-americ...-election.html

You segue into something entirely different, and post an entirely unrelated-to-the discussion article?

Ah, you are strange That's also called, "a red herring". Enjoy :-) Vote for your guy Romney. I hope he overturns the decades-long conspiracy to murder black babies in the womb. Even if doing that will assist the changing demographics that are eliminating the GOP from existence. Weird, huh?

[Clip-Clop]

"And why would the rabidly anti-abortion party be white"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

"And why would the rabidly anti-abortion party be white"

So .. Republicans are behind the support of Planned Parenthood as the racist baby-murderers?

Your conspiracy theory is so confusing. Kind of Alice-In-Wonderland opposite that doesn't make sense. But I guess logic isn't important to conspiracy theories.

[dellinger63]

A look behind the numbers shows PP to be VERY EFFICIENT!

With only 3% of total annual budget ($1.1 billion) going to abortions and completing betweeen 200K-300K proceedures per year their cost per abortion is between $110 and $165 dollars!

Maybe they could branch off into heart medicine?

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

A look behind the numbers shows PP to be VERY EFFICIENT!

With only 3% of total annual budget ($1.1 billion) going to abortions and completing betweeen 200K-300K proceedures per year their cost per abortion is between $110 and $165 dollars!

Maybe they could branch off into heart medicine?

You've misread the chart. Your statement is baloney. It's 3% of total services provided involve abortion, and that is not by definition 3% of the budget.

So, let's recap the facts:

Is Planned Parenthood a massive abortion provider? No. Less than 3% of it's services involve abortion, the vast majority of Planned Parenthood services are abortion prevention You know - like the name! "Planned" babies! So Planned Parenthood's major services decrease abortions by preventing pregnancy.

Is Planned Parenthood funded only by US government tax dollars? No - only a small extent.

Do US tax dollars fund abortions? No. That's illegal. US tax dollars have not funded one abortion since the Hyde Amendment, and they don't fund any abortions at Planned Parenthood.

The majority of people getting abortions at Planned Parenthood? They are white

[Clip-Clop]

yet 40% of abortions are performed on blacks. Of course (once again) the majority of abortions are being performed on white women, there are more of them.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

yet 40% of abortions are performed on blacks. Of course (once again) the majority of abortions are being performed on white women, there are more of them.

Yes, too many unborn black babies are being killed and prevented from being born, say the most conservative, blindingly white, ultra-right wing types that don't embrace minorities.

A good conspiracy theory doesn't have to make any sense whatsoever

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, too many unborn black babies are being killed and prevented from being born, say the most conservative, blindingly white, ultra-right wing types that don't embrace minorities.

A good conspiracy theory doesn't have to make any sense whatsoever

I am pro-abortion in almost every case of pregnancy, the majority of people are unfit to be parents.
I am also less than white and an atheist. But should be obvious that the plan has been to prevent inner-city black babies from being born as a long time ago they were determined by the powers that be to be a drain on society. I was born and raised in this kind of neighborhood and have championed women who made a decision to not have an unwanted child, no matter what the reason. Abortion was made readily available for this reason, that is what I believe, you make up your own story.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am pro-abortion in almost every case of pregnancy, the majority of people are unfit to be parents.
I am also less than white and an atheist. But should be obvious that the plan has been to prevent inner-city black babies from being born as a long time ago they were determined by the powers that be to be a drain on society. I was born and raised in this kind of neighborhood and have championed women who made a decision to not have an unwanted child, no matter what the reason. Abortion was made readily available for this reason, that is what I believe, you make up your own story.

Abortion was made legal in every state in 1973 to kill inner city unborn black babies. Yes. That's your opinion. Got it.

Um ... now that you've restated it multiple times, do you have any proof to support your opinion? Or is it just your "belief"?