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Old 11-26-2012, 05:06 AM
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I get the whole grab thing. It happens a lot. A lot in NY. Its not everyone though. JV never grabs. He sends when its time to send. Maybe Doug can post JV stats like he did Maragh. I still take him over Ramon. His ride in the 6th Saturday was great. His ride at Saratoga on THAS was even better.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:46 AM
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Johnny V's mounts (almost a thousand of them) have yielded a 27.5% loss per every dollar bet on them over the last 12 months.





Ramon yields a 14% loss. He's still profitable in turf races (barely)




From 2001 to 2009, Ramon had a profit in turf route races 8 out of 9 years, and a giant profit over that combined 9 year stretch of time.

In his case, it's not that he's declining as a jockey, it's more his value as a jockey to a bettor is declining because his reputation has grown so much. His value stats are sh!t now compared to what they were 10 years ago before he had people scores of people looking to bet him almost blindly.
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