Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Reload this Page Verrazano -- The Real Deal or Paper Tiger?
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-07-2013, 11:41 AM
casp0555's Avatar
casp0555 casp0555 is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Humble,Texas
Posts: 18,893
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by pucknut View Post
V may noy be the best horse in pletchers barn
Revolutionary may be better
Golden cents PF keep ascending
that horse could be a monster and the man with the playoff beard and happy hour personality could be sipping mint juleps again
Goldencents will be a huge story going in to the Derby when Louisville caps it off Monday night
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-07-2013, 01:05 PM
pointman's Avatar
pointman pointman is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 15,693
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegaskid View Post
another gemologist... NY horses are no threat
Why are NY horses no threat? Where do superior horses come from? Please enlighten us.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-07-2013, 01:21 PM
pweizer's Avatar
pweizer pweizer is offline
Fairgrounds
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Leominster, MA
Posts: 1,599
Default
And who qualifies as a New York horse? Any horse who has ever had one lifetime start in NY even if all others were elsewhere?

Verrazano is a KY bred who has three starts in Florida. That is a very broad definition of NY horse.

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-07-2013, 01:37 PM
TBJUNKY's Avatar
TBJUNKY TBJUNKY is offline
Les Bois
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 35
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by pweizer View Post
And who qualifies as a New York horse? Any horse who has ever had one lifetime start in NY even if all others were elsewhere?

Verrazano is a KY bred who has three starts in Florida. That is a very broad definition of NY horse.

Paul
Well put. This horse has done everything they've asked of him. I would've rather seen a win like that yesterday than another romp. So many things need to go right to win the Derby, regardless of where he won his preps, he will go into the starting gate(hopefully) being as prepared as he could be.
__________________
"When you call upon a Thoroughbred, he gives you all the speed, strength of heart and sinew in him. When you call on a jackass, he kicks." -Patricia Neal
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-09-2013, 01:49 PM
JJP JJP is offline
Gulfstream Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,220
Default
To answer the real question, I'd say paper tiger. At least as far as the KY Derby is concerned. That's not to say he could be the real deal in a race like the BC Dirt Mile.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-09-2013, 10:08 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default
His Performance Genetic report:

http://performancegenetics.com/wp-co...Rock-2010c.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-10-2013, 05:01 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,939
Default
rosario is on orb for the derby, so i figure johnny v will stay on verrazano.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-10-2013, 05:15 PM
pucknut pucknut is offline
Hawthorne
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 522
Default
johnny V was hurt bad sunday any updates
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 04-10-2013, 05:20 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,465
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by pucknut View Post
johnny V was hurt bad sunday any updates
A rib crack and a small chip in the wrist. Neither of those are a concern, but it seems he may have had a mild concussion.

Will rest 3 weeks and start riding Wednesday of Derby Week.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 04-10-2013, 06:15 PM
DaTruth's Avatar
DaTruth DaTruth is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,969
Default
Yes, but what about Verrazano's emotional conformation and sense of herd dynamics.
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 04-10-2013, 08:56 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,939
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaTruth View Post
Yes, but what about Verrazano's emotional conformation and sense of herd dynamics.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-10-2013, 10:09 PM
DaTruth's Avatar
DaTruth DaTruth is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,969
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig View Post
Stay safe with all the bad weather rolling through your area.
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-11-2013, 10:17 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,939
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaTruth View Post
Stay safe with all the bad weather rolling through your area.
thanks. just read a few minutes ago about some possible tornadoes in a county about an hour north of here. lots of rain here-with flash floods a real possibility. northern ark, southern mo also had some tornadoes.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-16-2013, 10:41 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default
He looks like quite the big boy next to Revolutionary:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/vi...ll-downs-41613

(bonus vid of Mine That Bird chasing his new pony friend!)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-16-2013, 10:48 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek View Post
He looks like quite the big boy next to Revolutionary:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/vi...ll-downs-41613

(bonus vid of Mine That Bird chasing his new pony friend!)
Those were awesome.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-17-2013, 06:44 AM
Arletta's Avatar
Arletta Arletta is offline
Jerome Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Meadow in the Sun
Posts: 9,385
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek View Post
He looks like quite the big boy next to Revolutionary:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/vi...ll-downs-41613

(bonus vid of Mine That Bird chasing his new pony friend!)
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04-17-2013, 08:51 AM
Revidere's Avatar
Revidere Revidere is offline
Washington Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 861
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek View Post
He looks like quite the big boy next to Revolutionary:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/vi...ll-downs-41613

(bonus vid of Mine That Bird chasing his new pony friend!)
That was great. Thanks for posting.
__________________
Revidere
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 08-24-2013, 06:36 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default
Countdown until the announcement that he is getting some time off for a Gulfstream campaign...
__________________
Tod Marks Photo - Daybreak over Oklahoma
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 08-24-2013, 06:44 PM
pointman's Avatar
pointman pointman is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 15,693
Default
He wants no part of 1 1/4. I know, I'm Captain Obvious with that assertion.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 08-24-2013, 06:54 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman View Post
He wants no part of 1 1/4. I know, I'm Captain Obvious with that assertion.
The problem though is he really was never running at 8 furlongs in this race.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:27 PM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.