Shared Belief

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Here is the champ last week at GGF.

He's not the one in blue.

Thanks to Janet Hollendorfer for the gracious access.

Attachment 2370

any word on his next appearance?

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

any word on his next appearance?

Yeah. Jerry said he's looking at the Los Alamitos Derby formally known as the Swaps Stakes.

[alysheba4]

sounds weird, "Swaps Stakes " at Los Al.......Cant Believe H.P. Is Gone.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Yeah. Jerry said he's looking at the Los Alamitos Derby formally known as the Swaps Stakes.

Seems like they are babying him.... Why not run him in a real race?

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Seems like they are babying him.... Why not run him in a real race?

First route race in 7 months. Smart move i think. Hollendorfer is not Rontos Stable. Like you said, baby steps.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Seems like they are babying him.... Why not run him in a real race?

It's a grade II with a $500,000 purse. That's not good enough? This will be his first race on real dirt. And as Outofthebox said, he just had the one 6 furlong sprint and now he's stretching all the way out to 1 1/8 miles. That's not easy to do. By the way, he's never run this far before.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's a grade II with a $500,000 purse. That's not good enough? This will be his first race on real dirt. And as Outofthebox said, he just had the one 6 furlong sprint and now he's stretching all the way out to 1 1/8 miles. That's not easy to do. By the way, he's never run this far before.

His first race back was at Golden Gate vs no one. His only competition in that race was a stablemate who was ridden, well watch the race....
He is the 2yr old champ. Is he coming east next for the big summer 3yr old races? If so Ill back off my comments.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

His first race back was at Golden Gate vs no one. His only competition in that race was a stablemate who was ridden, well watch the race....
He is the 2yr old champ. Is he coming east next for the big summer 3yr old races? If so Ill back off my comments.

He will be running in the biggest races soon enough. Hollendorfer has never been afraid to ship back east. I don't know if the horse will make the Haskell. It is 22 days after the Los Al race. That is borderline. There aren't any big races at Del Mar for 3 year olds on the main track. The big races are on the grass. I would assume the Travers is a possibility. If the horse has no problem handling the 1 1/8 miles at Los Al, they may feel he's ready to stretch out to 1 1/4 miles in the Travers.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

He will be running in the biggest races soon enough. Hollendorfer has never been afraid to ship back east. I don't know if the horse will make the Haskell. It is 22 days after the Los Al race. That is borderline. There aren't any big races at Del Mar for 3 year olds on the main track. The big races are on the grass. I would assume the Travers is a possibility. If the horse has no problem handling the 1 1/8 miles at Los Al, they may feel he's ready to stretch out to 1 1/4 miles in the Travers.

I guess my point is how many champions run at Golden Gate and Los Al??? It feels to me like the perfect spot for him surface, timing and distance wise was last Saturday.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I guess my point is how many champions run at Golden Gate and Los Al??? It feels to me like the perfect spot for him surface, timing and distance wise was last Saturday.

Are you serious. I hope your not referring to the Belmont Stakes Saturday? A 1 1/2 mile off a six furlong race..nice...Im sure if he was stabled on the east coast there was a good chance he would have made his 3yo debut in the Woody Stephens. But the Dorf was lucky enough to get a race put up for him and now he is on his way. I hope like all of us that he can dirt and compete in the Travers this summer...

[Pants II]

Wouldn't be surprised to see California Chrome in the Los AL derby.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Wouldn't be surprised to see California Chrome in the Los AL derby.

He might lead the post parade just for kicks..That would bring out a big crowd...

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

He might lead the post parade just for kicks..That would bring out a big crowd...

He's off to the farm for a break.. Not expected to return until the fall.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...easy-at-los-al

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Are you serious. I hope your not referring to the Belmont Stakes Saturday? A 1 1/2 mile off a six furlong race..nice...Im sure if he was stabled on the east coast there was a good chance he would have made his 3yo debut in the Woody Stephens. But the Dorf was lucky enough to get a race put up for him and now he is on his way. I hope like all of us that he can dirt and compete in the Travers this summer...

Woody Stephens.....

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Woody Stephens.....

Gotcha...Well good thing he didn't show up there against Bayerns blow out..

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Gotcha...Well good thing he didn't show up there against Bayerns blow out..

Seriously?

[Rupert Pupkin]

As good as Shared Belief has been on the synthetics, they may decide to go in the Pacific Classic instead of shipping back east. There have been a few 3 year olds that have won that race. Dullahan won it in 2012. Aside from Game on Dude, the handicap division on the west coast is not that strong right now. And Game on Dude is not as consistent as he used to be. He ran that one huge race this year but his other couple of races were just mediocre.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Arletta

He's off to the farm for a break.. Not expected to return until the fall.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...easy-at-los-al

Meh.

So one prep for the bc.


That's garbage. Bet that changes.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Seriously?

Yes, The last thing you want for a horse coming off a long layoff is a demanding race..Which is why Hollendorfer picked out a condition race for him.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Now they're saying they might go in the San Diego Handicap instead of the Los Alamitos Derby. They'd have to go against older horses in there but the advantages are that it is on synthetic and it is only 1 1/16 miles. I guess they are having second thoughts about running 1 1/8 miles on the dirt coming off just a 6 furlong race on the synthetic. I can't blame them.

The big negative (aside from running against older horses) if they go in the San Diego Handicap is that this would put them in a position where they have to go from running 1 1/16 miles to 1 1/4 miles if his subsequent start was going to be either the Travers or the Pacific Classic. It is very rare to see a horse that has never run further than 1 1/16 miles win a Grade 1 going 1 1/4 miles. It practically never happens. I've seen it a few times but it is very rare. Maybe they will pass on both the Pacific Classic and the Travers and try him on the grass in the Del Mar Derby (1 1/8 miles). That would be a little more conservative.