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Old 02-13-2014, 10:02 PM
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It does't look to good that the first race for 8k ran 2/5 faster.
Well, if she's anything like her more famous older sister, they will split the variant.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:41 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure she'll turn out to be a real superstar on dirt. She ran almost 3 lengths slower than $8,000 claimers did in the previous race.
But according to him she's a Majestic Warrior, so she's a dirt star. They are both slow IMO. People on Facebook are calling the slower one Princess Ebby, its sickening.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:56 PM
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But according to him she's a Majestic Warrior, so she's a dirt star. They are both slow IMO. People on Facebook are calling the slower one Princess Ebby, its sickening.
I never said that.

Majestic Warriors switching to dirt is not a new angle. I've been using it for a while now with success.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:48 AM
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She broke a bit slowly, and could have easily sat 3rd on the rail. But that wasn't good enough for Smith, who had to put her 3 wide and near the lead.. He then dropped back to where he would have been to begin with, except 3 wide instead of saving some ground. Came up short in the stretch. I'm not saying she's much, but she would have won that race with a smarter ride.
There are no trips in slow races. A horse with any real talent would have won that race for fun.

I wouldnt bet her back based on that trip, it was mildly below average.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:55 AM
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Too much was expected of her based on Zenyatta, it was unrealistic and unfair. It was easy to get excited because she won first out with the bloodlines. But if she was going to be anything great she should of won against this field no excuses, these kind of races tells us about class. She will be a useful horse and hopefully will win some stakes race and if in the right situation with the right field a graded stakes win.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:04 AM
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Too much was expected of her based on Zenyatta, it was unrealistic and unfair. It was easy to get excited because she won first out with the bloodlines. But if she was going to be anything great she should of won against this field no excuses, these kind of races tells us about class. She will be a useful horse and hopefully will win some stakes race and if in the right situation with the right field a graded stakes win.
You mean siblings dont always turn out as good as their kin?

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Old 02-14-2014, 10:17 AM
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Too much was expected of her based on Zenyatta, it was unrealistic and unfair. It was easy to get excited because she won first out with the bloodlines. But if she was going to be anything great she should of won against this field no excuses, these kind of races tells us about class. She will be a useful horse and hopefully will win some stakes race and if in the right situation with the right field a graded stakes win.
You mean she will win a crappy California stakes race against four other mediocrities? I've seen this script before.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:39 AM
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almost as disappointing as when Rachel Alexander chickened out against her sister at Oaklawn.

P.S. Zen doesn't like y'all talking smack about her sister. You remember Zenyatta right ? the hoss who ran by every hoss she ever faced except one. Including running by Gio Ponti who got a huge jump on her and looked home free in the Classic.

The worst part was that after the monster second place finish to Blame, you bozos still wouldn't admit you were wrong about her. At least at Northeastern they educated us enough to admit when we're wrong. Though it seldom happens
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:51 AM
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O.k, so we chalk this race up as an experiment, first race off a layoff and a bad ride by Mike Smith.

The next race she should really be "the one".
She's a 5yo that has had a total of 454 days off between her last 3 starts. She will more likely be a 6yo for her next race - will that still count?

Honestly, I get the hoopla, but it should be clear to anyone who watched the race with an unclouded view/expectation that they saw an unsound, mediocre-at-best, mare at this juncture.

If there is any sense of cognition in that barn, that was her last.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:46 AM
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unsound ? mediocre at best ? .....cmon man isn't that a little harsh ?
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:05 AM
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unsound ? mediocre at best ? .....cmon man isn't that a little harsh ?
The mediocre at best comment is definitly not harsh just accurate
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:07 PM
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She was probably best the other day, and it was a six month layoff, but she's just not much horse. It happens. Zenyatta's legacy has not been diminished. Her minions can relax.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:10 PM
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almost as disappointing as when Rachel Alexander chickened out against her sister at Oaklawn.

P.S. Zen doesn't like y'all talking smack about her sister. You remember Zenyatta right ? the hoss who ran by every hoss she ever faced except one. Including running by Gio Ponti who got a huge jump on her and looked home free in the Classic.

The worst part was that after the monster second place finish to Blame, you bozos still wouldn't admit you were wrong about her. At least at Northeastern they educated us enough to admit when we're wrong. Though it seldom happens
Rachel Alexandra, darling. Who do you think you are, Tom Durkin? Get the name of a future Hall of Famer right. (To be fair, he said Alexandra some of the time.)

Yes I remember Zenyatta, for her biggest accomplishment...learning to type with hooves. Seriously it's impressive. No thumbs but the Queen can work a space bar. She gushes it up on a blog with her fans there, many of whom were supposed to be brought to racing by her awesomeness but any of them who weren't into the sport before still aren't really. They are just part of a one horse fan club.

Ugh I swear, Zenyatta deserves all kinds of praise because she's extraordinary but people that insist on being delusional about her deserving 2009 HOY just need to go rock themselves to sleep beneath the Zenyatta poster over their bed.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:23 PM
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:08 PM
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Were you standing next to your pink Zenyatta bumper sticker when you threatened that jock?
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:20 PM
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You remember Zenyatta right ? the hoss who ran by every hoss she ever faced except one.
Nicely done, for those who forget as much.

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Were you standing next to your pink Zenyatta bumper sticker when you threatened that jock?
I don't know the story BUT, that said? It's a pretty awesome visual.... threatening someone with that in the background!
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:39 PM
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unsound ? mediocre at best ? .....cmon man isn't that a little harsh ?

62 days between her first race (MSW) and her second race (N1X) - {excessive, but ok, benefit of the doubt.}

184 days between that race and the G3 try at Saratoga
{that's not a freshening}

204 days off out of that race before running 2 seconds slower than 8 claimers the previous race on the card.

Honestly, does that appear to you to be a sound horse?

Sorry if the truth is ruffling some feathers, but no - not harsh in the least; on either accounts.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:05 PM
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Were you standing next to your pink Zenyatta bumper sticker when you threatened that jock?
what r you talking about ?
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