3 Dead 23 Wounded in 10 hrs. of battle

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No..not really, but I'm not sure what Steve's point either is in posting weekly stats about what sadly occurs in certain neighborhoods. Yeah..if there were no guns, there would be knives and rocks and bats, but a lot less inncocent kids would be killed. Otherwise, besides less or no guns, what is the answer? Build more jails? Agreed..Federal Funds needed though. Longer sentencing? Sure..back to more jails though. I'm not naive, nor Liberal enough to think what you guys think I might, but I sure would love to hear some answers instead of smarmy comebacks.

Because Bob, before you get an answer you have to fully comprehend the question you are asking. It's not simply cause and effect. Gang-related crime is rampant for a reason - solve the reason and solve the problem. Unless the "problem solvers" are profiting from the reason- then it may go on for decades upon decades...

oh wait...

[GenuineRisk]

Interestingly enough, this radio call ostensibly about Donald Sterling brought up the Chicago shootings:

http://deadspin.com/in-10-minutes-es...ste-1569195989

Great listen.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Interestingly enough, this radio call ostensibly about Donald Sterling brought up the Chicago shootings:

http://deadspin.com/in-10-minutes-es...ste-1569195989

Great listen.

And all along I thought my parents moved us out of Chicago so we could have a yard.

The most recent Chicago murder involved a 14 year old girl killing another 14 year old girl over a boy with a gun furnished by the killer's 34-year old Uncle. The uncle who is paralyzed from a 2010 shooting, allegedly cleared the gun for his niece and handed it back to her after it didn't fire the first time and to cap it all off the entire episode was captured on a cell video.

To make things worse the murder of the woman he speaks of, Leonore Draper, looks more like she was targeted, because of her anti-violence/gang activities.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see 38 and go all in

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/ny...tudy-says.html


My point is you can find a "study" to support anything,.

Hey karaoke, salsa lessons, drama lessons, paint and new release movies all cost money.

Hopefully there's outrage in NYC this morning.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/05/accused...ushy-bellevue/

[dellinger63]

I guess getting coverage, outside of Chicago, late is better than never. Thankfully the author NAILS it.

Only 80 people shot and 14 killed this weekend.

You would think that trying to find ways to combat it would be an obsession of liberals who profess to care about the welfare of our cities, but all their energy is devoted to income inequality, global warming and other fashionable causes.

And the drumbeat of murder in a great American city goes on.

http://nypost.com/2014/07/07/whats-b...cagos-carnage/

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I guess getting coverage, outside of Chicago, late is better than never. Thankfully the author NAILS it.

Only 80 people shot and 14 killed this weekend.



http://nypost.com/2014/07/07/whats-b...cagos-carnage/

And the do-nothing mayor was recently the White house Chief of Staff.

But I'm sure the root cause of all of it all is Fox News/ G.W. Bush/ Racists picking on the President/ and of course, OMG WE NEED MORE GUN LAWS!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/c...-gun-violence/

UPDATE:
The mayor HAS chimed in - he says the violence is “senseless” and “totally unacceptable”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...o-july-weekend

Unbelievable. Incompetency run amok.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

And the do-nothing mayor was recently the White house Chief of Staff.

But I'm sure the root cause of all of it all is Fox News/ G.W. Bush/ Racists picking on the President/ and of course, OMG WE NEED MORE GUN LAWS!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/c...-gun-violence/

UPDATE:
The mayor HAS chimed in - he says the violence is “senseless” and “totally unacceptable”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...o-july-weekend



Unbelievable. Incompetency run amok.

I don't think you can put blame on the mayor as his minimum-mandatory sentencing plan for gun crimes was shut down by politicians representing the same communities the violence is occurring, calling the plan racist.

The people in the neighborhood know who the gangbangers are, so do the police and so does Jesse Jackson, politicians et al.

The people live in fear of reprisal as they live with the gangbangers while the police can't stop and search or even count on prosecutors and judges to do their job to the fullest because of Jesse Jackson et al protecting the bangers under the guise of racism.

It's a classic case of FUBAR and the cries for stricter gun laws in a city with the strictest gun laws constantly affirms that.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think you can put blame on the mayor as his minimum-mandatory sentencing plan for gun crimes was shut down by politicians representing the same communities the violence is occurring, calling the plan racist.

Ridiculous. He is the Mayor of the city, he has a responsibility to call out representatives of these communities responsible for upholding laws detrimental to the citizenry of the city. Perhaps Rahm should put a call into his buddy in the White House, you'd have to admit the guy has got a knack for bypassing those pesky legislators.

[declansharbor]

Crazy when Chicago makes Camden, NJ look enjoyable.

Sign of the apocalypse?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Crazy when Chicago makes Camden, NJ look enjoyable.

Sign of the apocalypse?

And we wonder while the government is stockpiling all that ammo?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Ridiculous. He is the Mayor of the city, he has a responsibility to call out representatives of these communities responsible for upholding laws detrimental to the citizenry of the city. Perhaps Rahm should put a call into his buddy in the White House, you'd have to admit the guy has got a knack for bypassing those pesky legislators.

He has called out the reps and they in turn called him racist and formed some 'never to be heard from again' group to investigate.

The President is well aware of the problem and does his best to avoid these neighborhoods, including his racist former pastor's church and all the other churches/schools he visited when he was conning them of their votes. In fact I hear the odds of the Obama's moving back to Chicago is a no bet.

BTW Wonder how the influx of illegals seeking work will have on these neighborhood's unemployment rate and why their reps aren't calling foul?

Big business wants cheap labor and democrats want more voters thus creating a 'Perfect Storm'. Meanwhile over 80 get shot, no one goes to jail, and the next shipment of government cheese is only 7 days away.

[joeydb]

Why do politicians think gun laws will help, when the law abiding did not commit the crimes and the perpetrators by definition ignore laws?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Why do politicians think gun laws will help, when the law abiding did not commit the crimes and the perpetrators by definition ignore laws?

More important is why do politicians think mandatory minimum sentencing for gun crimes and even murders, for those convicted and are actually breaking laws racist? And why is a kid who's only 20 and has been arrested 22 times, including gun arrests, out on the street, with a gun, shooting people?

Federal prosecutors took down a good portion of the Chicago mob not too long ago. They can't take down the gangster disciples or would taking them down be racist?

What's frustrating is while bangers enjoy protection and leniency under the race card, almost all of their victims are minorities, exposed and vulnerable because of the same used race card. Whites look the other way and only worry about violence downtown / gold coast / Viagra triangle and politicians and black leaders mostly reverends like Jackson Sr. cry for and receive more government money for things like midnight basketball leagues and anti-violence gang offices that serve as heroin dens skimming everywhere they can.

[dellinger63]

"There's nothing wrong with the people, the structure must change." Jesse Jackson Last Night

"I want to an opportunity to raise important issues about gun violence and gun safety in America," he said. "I'm going to offer an amendment ... which stiffens the penalties for those who purchase guns to give them to another person or sell them to another person to commit a crime."

"Girlfriends, wake up," Durbin said. "When that thug sends you in to buy a gun, under this amendment, you run the risk of spending 15 years of your life in a federal prison. So think about it. Is he really worth it?" US Senator Dick Durbin This Morning

Meanwhile Chicago ranks at the bottom of Federal Gun Prosecutions

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...ral-gun-crimes

And our latest gangbanger (with nothing wrong with him according to the Reverend)arrested this morning is a felon who pointed a gun at an officer and in turn was shot in the azz.

A quick look at the 23 year-old's past record shows a '08 arrest and '09 conviction for delivery of over 500 grams or over a pound of marijuana. While on bond in 09 he was arrested and convicted of unlawful aggravated use of a weapon from a vehicle. He was sentenced to 2 years for the marijuana and 2 years for the weapons' charge and entered IDOC on 10/16/09. Less than 2 years later in 2011 specifically 10/5/11 he was found guilty of residential burglary and was sentenced to 4 years. Somehow on 8/22/13 less than 2 years later he was paroled and less than a year after that was pointing a gun with a scratched off serial number at a police officer. He now faces charges including two counts of aggravated assault of a peace officer with a firearm, unlawful use of a weapon by a felon on parole, possessing a firearm with a defaced serial number and being an armed habitual criminal.

http://voices.suntimes.com/news/brea...lved-shooting/

And Jesse maintains there ain't nothing wrong with him and Durbin wants to enact laws that would put his girlfriend behind bars for 15 years for buying the gun.

[GenuineRisk]

Horrifying incident of white-on-white crime:

http://gawker.com/texas-shooter-kill...1603229349/all

The shooter had a history of abuse, but nothing had been done about it.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Horrifying incident of white-on-white crime:

http://gawker.com/texas-shooter-kill...1603229349/all

The shooter had a history of abuse, but nothing had been done about it.

The only good news is it occurred in Texas and they'll surely give him the death penalty and actually execute him.

If it had happened in IL the worse he could have gotten was life in prison cause you know, there's a doubt whether he did it even though he did it.

But as long as Christian business owners are forced to provide the morning after pill and illegals get their $3.8 billion, all is well in the Land of Lincoln.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The only good news is it occurred in Texas and they'll surely give him the death penalty and actually execute him.

If it had happened in IL the worse he could have gotten was life in prison cause you know, there's a doubt whether he did it even though he did it.

But as long as Christian business owners are forced to provide the morning after pill and illegals get their $3.8 billion, all is well in the Land of Lincoln.

Christian business owners who outsource all of the manufacturing to a country that mandates abortions by law to limit population. They only "choose life" when it's convenient for them. But why would that hypocrisy surprise anyone?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Christian business owners who outsource all of the manufacturing to a country that mandates abortions by law to limit population. They only "choose life" when it's convenient for them. But why would that hypocrisy surprise anyone?

Money Trumps Life I guess. If I could give you 1000 for that post I would...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Christian business owners who outsource all of the manufacturing to a country that mandates abortions by law to limit population. They only "choose life" when it's convenient for them. But why would that hypocrisy surprise anyone?

My point exactly.

Why worry about 80 people shot in one weekend and dozens more every weekend when we have hypocrite Christian business owners importing products from China?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Christian business owners who outsource all of the manufacturing to a country that mandates abortions by law to limit population. They only "choose life" when it's convenient for them. But why would that hypocrisy surprise anyone?

and invest money into companies that make the very products they are supposedly against as well. so, they don't mind making profits from the stuff!