HOY sense - Page 2

pmayjr · #21 10-08-2006, 04:16 PM

What if Sun King wins the Classic? Or Perfect Drift? Do they get any consideration? Because you'd conceivably be putting all the major contendors for HOY in the same race. So if Sun King were to come out on top... would you give him HOY?

sumitas · #22 10-08-2006, 04:16 PM

maybe not out of the money, but more like not in first place. my choice is Barbaro for HOY...he did a lot, was injured. could have done a lot more.

why hold the injury against Barbaro ? i don't, that's why he's my HOY.

ateamstupid · #23 10-08-2006, 05:05 PM

You know, I was going to write a response to this unbelievably ridiculous post, but there are so many quotes in here that have already destroyed it by using, you know, logic, I think I'll just post some of the ones I like the most.

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Originally Posted by Revolution

barbaro is not in the picture. bernardini, lava man, or invasor. the winner of the classic wins hoy. one of those three will win. nobody else has a shot. somebody else might finish ahead of lava man or invasor, but only lava man or invasor could finish ahead of bernardini.

bernardini is going to be hoy. he is 5-6 lenghts better than anything out there.

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

The only thing that is becoming very clear to me is and this comes from reading several of your posts.

Sumitas=Absolutely Clueless I am putting it nicely.

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

where was he?
he was preparing his horse and not rushing him to meet your stupid expectations of what a HOY campaign is...

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well I guess it's good that you don't have a vote.

AND MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE..

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Originally Posted by Betsy

The only thing that makes me happier than Bernardini winning is seeing whiners marinate in their own misery. Right - Tom was supposed to rush a maiden breaker into the Florida Derby just in case the horse turned out to be a monster so that, as a pre-emptive strike, he could defend himself later against any haters out there.

Enjoy your bitterness

Very, VERY well done Betsy. That might be my new signature.

Betsy · #24 10-08-2006, 05:16 PM

Feel free, Ateam and thanks!

You know, I'm really enjoying this now. I visit and post on several message boards, and on each one, there is at least a couple of people who's utterly nonsensical ravings about Bernardini make me want to either

or

.

One poster on another board said that Bernardini didn't impress him and pointed out that he was sweaty after the race and so the race clearly took a lot out of him......That may have been my favorite anti-Bernardini post of all time. I saw him after the race - yes, he probably didn't have a good deoderant on since the colt had some visible droplets of sweat.

He was great in the winner's circle, tossing his head and not standing still ; colt crackled with energy. I know we haven't yet had to see it on the track, but I really do think this is an ultra-competitive horse. A local racing writer (NY Newsday) called Bernardini fierce, and I think that is a good description. By the way, he apparently came out of Gold Cup in fine fettle, bouncing around like he'd never run - I love to read that. He's got a wonderfully strong constitution.

#25 10-08-2006, 05:20 PM

'Fresh' horses do not win BC races, as a rule. Therefore, I see Invasor and David Junior with little chance. The award is between the two most worthy, Bernardini and Lava Man.

#26 10-08-2006, 06:47 PM

The bigger question is what happens if Invasor finishes ahead of Lava Man but Invasor doesn't win the race (expecting Bernardini or David Junior to win). Who is champion Older Male? I still say Lava Man given 4 Grade 1's with one on turf plus a Grade 2 and a million $ restricted stakes race trump 3 east coast Grade 1's. Any thoughts?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #27 10-08-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

The bigger question is what happens if Invasor finishes ahead of Lava Man but Invasor doesn't win the race (expecting Bernardini or David Junior to win). Who is champion Older Male? I still say Lava Man given 4 Grade 1's with one on turf plus a Grade 2 and a million $ restricted stakes race trump 3 east coast Grade 1's. Any thoughts?

I think the champion Older Male is going to be Lava Man. I think he is actually going to run well at Churchill Downs. I changed my mind about him.

Danzig · #28 10-08-2006, 07:07 PM

i think lava man has top older wrapped up, multi-surface winner, unbeaten all year.
it is hard to see one of these three not winning. but you never know, which is why they run them! certainly will put a wrinkle into things. but at this point i don't see barbaro getting hoy. i think either bernardini or lava man will get hoy even if they both lose. only way one of them doesn't get it is if invasor wins the classic.
someone asked if its believed invasor will really run in the classic? if he's healthy, yeah, i think he does.

#29 10-08-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

Barbaro is easily the HOY, not a pretender like Bernardini and Albertrani.

The title is "HORSE of the YEAR" ...

... not "BEST 3YO THROUGH THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY"

sumitas · #30 10-08-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

The only thing that is becoming very clear to me is and this comes from reading several of your posts.

Sumitas=Absolutely Clueless I am putting it nicely.

Tommy Albertrani is one of the Good guys in racing today and I say that because I know him pretty well.

you know him so well then pass my opening post to him...he's gotten lucky by picking up pieces the last few months.

Thunder Gulch · #31 10-09-2006, 10:47 AM

Barbaro is probably out of HOY running and his only shot for 3yo champ if for Bernardini to run up the track in the Classic.

Cajungator26 · #32 10-09-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Absolutely not. Perfect Drift??? This is getting silly.

Yep, I'll be laughing while you guys sit on here and pout about it. I think Drifty gets a win in... and the BCC is the place to do it.

#33 10-09-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, I'll be laughing while you guys sit on here and pout about it. I think Drifty gets a win in... and the BCC is the place to do it.

Is your bra on too tight?

Cajungator26 · #34 10-09-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Is your bra on too tight?

Nope, how is yours?

#35 10-09-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, I'll be laughing while you guys sit on here and pout about it. I think Drifty gets a win in... and the BCC is the place to do it.

From the 1/8th pole to the wire he wouldn't pass a ****ing parked car!!!!

#36 10-09-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nope, how is yours?

Always! Puts them front and center.

#37 10-09-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

From the 1/8th pole to the wire he wouldn't pass a ****ing parked car!!!!

Ya know, I could almost love you if you retracted the Balletto comment!

Cajungator26 · #38 10-09-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Always! Puts them front and center.

I guess mine just naturally like it front and center.

Cajungator26 · #39 10-09-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Ya know, I could almost love you if you retracted the Balletto comment!

Don't hold your breath!

#40 10-09-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

where was he?
he was preparing his horse and not rushing him to meet your stupid expectations of what a HOY campaign is...

I disagree that someone who edits the board can call someone "stupid" for expressing an opinion.