NBA Off season

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

From what I've read, Embiid is out 4-6 months which would put him back on the court come December or January.

From what I read there is little to no chance for him to play this season because teams will want him to be completely healed.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/joel...tress-fracture


“The younger you are, the better you heal. He’s still a growing kid. There’s no guarantee. You’re talking about an NBA team with millions of dollars on the line. … The longer the fracture’s there, the longer it can take to heal. … If I didn’t need the kid the first year … he might be worth a chance.”

That is coming from a guy with no skin in the game. The GM that takes him will have his ass on the line. Even if Philly had some sort of home run sht at James there is no way they take a injured, project at 3 and he likely wont be there at 10

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

No way is Houston trading Harden for Anthony. The only way is if they also sign James. Chicago doesn't have to do much to make the room.

Yeah Chicago has to strip down the roster/ To sign him outright w/no sign and trade they'd
1. Amnesty Boozer
2. Trade both 1st rounders this year
3. Trade Dunleavy, Gibson, Smith and Snell
4. Waive Mike James, Amundson and R. Brewer
5. and depending on what Mirotic is doing Butler might have to be moved as well.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Chicago has to do a lot of maneuvering to get Anthony. Just don't see that happening. I keep seeing Anthony to Houston in a sign and trade for Harden. Harden and Anthony are not compatible because essentially they are the same guy.

Except Harden is better, is 5 years younger and has the best beard ever.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Except Harden is better, is 5 years younger and has the best beard ever.

Harden has a great beard and is younger but isnt better. Amazingly his defense was so atrocious that he made Anthony a plus defender in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmrxxqKhM-E

They would no doubt trade Harden for Anthony if it meant getting James too.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Except Harden is better, is 5 years younger and has the best beard ever.

Younger is about it. If you asked every GM which they would rather have Anthony would be unanimous choice.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Younger is about it. If you asked every GM which they would rather have Anthony would be unanimous choice.

That's not true. You can have Harden for 10yrs or Melo for 4.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

That's not true. You can have Harden for 10yrs or Melo for 4.

How many GM's expect to be around in 10 years?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How many GM's expect to be around in 10 years?

If your Phil and its a money grab, I mean they paid Phil 50 million and have no real chance to win in the next 3-5 years. So if your Phil you trade Melo for Harden w/out hesitation.

[RockHardTen1985]

I have always been kind of a closet Philly fan. I have a Sixers fitted. Loved Iverson and really started getting into NBA betting when I caught Philly moneyline game 1 vs the Lakers in the finals...Call it a redboard but I destroyed that game, I was way young and thought I was rich and lost most of it back... Anyway the point is with the picks they have had the last 2 years I believe its been 2 of the worst drafts EVER. They have basically put there entire franchise into Noel and Embid. I think its insane. Last night I take Exum at 3, then Randall, McDermott or the kid from Indiana.... Whoever slipped to me at 10. Horrible 2 years of drafting from them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If your Phil and its a money grab, I mean they paid Phil 50 million and have no real chance to win in the next 3-5 years. So if your Phil you trade Melo for Harden w/out hesitation.

They can win quickly. And Phil got 60 million. Believe me he isnt looking 5 years down the road.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have always been kind of a closet Philly fan. I have a Sixers fitted. Loved Iverson and really started getting into NBA betting when I caught Philly moneyline game 1 vs the Lakers in the finals...Call it a redboard but I destroyed that game, I was way young and thought I was rich and lost most of it back... Anyway the point is with the picks they have had the last 2 years I believe its been 2 of the worst drafts EVER. They have basically put there entire franchise into Noel and Embid. I think its insane. Last night I take Exum at 3, then Randall, McDermott or the kid from Indiana.... Whoever slipped to me at 10. Horrible 2 years of drafting from them.

They drafted the rookie of the year last year. I'd say that wouldn't qualify it as one of the worst drafts ever.

While taking Noel and Embiid is risky they have huge upsides. Noel may never be anything more than a rim protector and rebounder and defensive player but those guys are valued in the league. Embiid is a huge risk but Exum is too condiering that there is very little actual game coverage of him against real competition and the other guys listed are likely just guys. They get Saric who potentially is a star next year or the year after, they also get back another #1 pick in 2017. So basically they got the draft and stash guy they were looking for AND recover draft picks. They obviously want to be big players in next years lottery and are seemingly looking at 2016 to start the push. Yeah it is gonna be another bad year but if they can get all these guys on the court relatively healthy in the near future there might be a real contender in there.

[King Glorious]

As expected, Bosh and Wade opted out and Haslem joined them.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They drafted the rookie of the year last year. I'd say that wouldn't qualify it as one of the worst drafts ever.

While taking Noel and Embiid is risky they have huge upsides. Noel may never be anything more than a rim protector and rebounder and defensive player but those guys are valued in the league. Embiid is a huge risk but Exum is too condiering that there is very little actual game coverage of him against real competition and the other guys listed are likely just guys. They get Saric who potentially is a star next year or the year after, they also get back another #1 pick in 2017. So basically they got the draft and stash guy they were looking for AND recover draft picks. They obviously want to be big players in next years lottery and are seemingly looking at 2016 to start the push. Yeah it is gonna be another bad year but if they can get all these guys on the court relatively healthy in the near future there might be a real contender in there.

I guess, but that rookie of year was on the trade block this week. With 4 top 10 picks in back to back drafts how are you not ready to win now? In decent drafts... One of those picks cant play for 2 years. One of them sat out a year already and the other is going to sit out a year now. I cant see how anyone can defend this. Things would have to work out perfectly from here on out, do you believe they will? Now you want fans to wait another year? Is this serious?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I guess, but that rookie of year was on the trade block this week. With 4 top 10 picks in back to back drafts how are you not ready to win now? In decent drafts... One of those picks cant play for 2 years. One of them sat out a year already and the other is going to sit out a year now. I cant see how anyone can defend this. Things would have to work out perfectly from here on out, do you believe they will? Now you want fans to wait another year? Is this serious?

You know he was on the block, how? One of your insiders?


And nice retort to Chuck's dismantling of your bad opinion....I guess.

And us real fans will wait as long as it takes. Hinkie has been upfront since the beginning about it being a long, arduous process. There will be plenty of room for you to hop back on the wagon in a few years when they're one of the best defensive teams in the league and add a bonafide scorer or two.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I guess, but that rookie of year was on the trade block this week. With 4 top 10 picks in back to back drafts how are you not ready to win now? In decent drafts... One of those picks cant play for 2 years. One of them sat out a year already and the other is going to sit out a year now. I cant see how anyone can defend this. Things would have to work out perfectly from here on out, do you believe they will? Now you want fans to wait another year? Is this serious?

The rookie of the year was on the imaginary trade block. They are trying to hit a home run instead of being the Hawks. The idea that 4 rookies would make up an immediate contender is silly regardless of who they are.

Is it a risk? Sure but after trading for Bynum they needed to blow things up and why be 35-47 and picking 8th when you can be 24-58 and pick 1st or 2nd?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The rookie of the year was on the imaginary trade block. They are trying to hit a home run instead of being the Hawks. The idea that 4 rookies would make up an immediate contender is silly regardless of who they are.

Is it a risk? Sure but after trading for Bynum they needed to blow things up and why be 35-47 and picking 8th when you can be 24-58 and pick 1st or 2nd?

I loved what they did, because if it works out, the Sixers will be one of (if not THEE) most exciting team(s) in the league. Hell, i'm STOKED!

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

You know he was on the block, how? One of your insiders?


And nice retort to Chuck's dismantling of your bad opinion....I guess.

And us real fans will wait as long as it takes. Hinkie has been upfront since the beginning about it being a long, arduous process. There will be plenty of room for you to hop back on the wagon in a few years when they're one of the best defensive teams in the league and add a bonafide scorer or two.

I respect Chuck and I think he knows that. Legler and Chris B discussed MCW being on the trade block last week and how rare it would be to trade a ROY the next year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I respect Chuck and I think he knows that. Legler and Chris B discussed MCW being on the trade block last week and how rare it would be to trade a ROY the next year.

The ESPN guys just stir the pot with less than factual rumors to create "news" that they can report on and create content for their 5 channels and radio outlets. Virtually every NBA player is on the trade block all the time with few very notable exceptions.

Hell it looks like J Kidd is going to be traded to Milwaukee and he isnt even a player anymore

[Cannon Shell]

Also the fact that Saric got on a plane to take part in the draft and then stayed just to take part in the Sixers introductory press conference shows that he wont be staying in Turkey for long. Not to mention how big he looks especially compared to Grant who measured 6'8" at the combine. Perhaps it is just the angle but he looks closer to 7 feet and has SF skill level. What if he closer to Dirk than Turkoglu?


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...hilosophy.html


Again it might not work, Embiid and Noel might never be 100% again, Saric might get stuck over in Euroleagues, a lot of stuff needs to happen to make this a success story but at the very least it is an interesting way of trying to build a team from the absolute ground up.

The potential is huge though
A very quiet acquisition is Pierre Jackson who won't be an NBA star because of his size but who absolutely blitzed the D league last year and looks like a Patty Mills type of instant offense off of the bench.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

Hoping for another great season.Almost made it and will this season. Phoenix Suns.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/suns-to...163546302.html

Dave how do you feel about this?