Typical of This Administration

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think your "Jesus wept" comment is pretty absurd. There is no evidence that any of these kids were in any type of life and death danger back in their countries. Sure those countries are far more dangerous than the US but so are hundreds of other countries across the world. Do you think the US should take in all the children of the world who live in fairly dangerous countries?

When I hear there is genocide going on somewhere, I'm in favor of us helping any way we can. And when we hear children in Africa are dying of diseases that can be cured with medication, I am in favor of sending medication there. I don't mind paying for it.

But I don't think the US should take in any child who wants to come here that lives in a fairly dangerous country. By the way, there are far more dangerous countries in the world than most of the countries in Central America. Countries like Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, etc are far more dangerous. Some of the countries in Central America were really dangerous back in the 1970s and 1980s when they were having civil wars there, but they're not that bad now, not compared to other places.

Okay. Here:

How Mexico's Drug Cartels Recruit Child Soldiers as Young as 11:
http://www.wired.com/2013/03/mexico-child-soldiers/

Mexican Drug Cartels Targeting and Killing Children
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...b9C_story.html

Mexico's Drug War is Changing Children
http://www.npr.org/2012/11/27/166027...ging-childhood

Mexican and Central American children are coming here because we're the closest relatively stable nation. It has nothing to do with the USA being special. If they were closer to Europe, they'd be going to Western Europe.

If you don't think things have gotten much, much worse in Mexico and Central America over the past few years, you haven't been paying attention. Well, except for the Honduras, which I think has had one of the highest murder rates in the world since the 1990s.

Okay, I did google that to be sure- here are the nations with the highest homicide rates, according to the UN:

COUNTRIES
Honduras: 90.4 (per 100,000)
Venezuela: 53.7
Belize: 44.7
El Salvador: 41.2
Guatemala: 39.9
Jamaica: 39.3
Swaziland: 33.8
Saint Kitts and Nevis: 33.6
South Africa: 31.0
Colombia: 30.8

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Okay. Here:

How Mexico's Drug Cartels Recruit Child Soldiers as Young as 11:
http://www.wired.com/2013/03/mexico-child-soldiers/

Mexican Drug Cartels Targeting and Killing Children
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...b9C_story.html

Mexico's Drug War is Changing Children
http://www.npr.org/2012/11/27/166027...ging-childhood

Mexican and Central American children are coming here because we're the closest relatively stable nation. It has nothing to do with the USA being special. If they were closer to Europe, they'd be going to Western Europe.

If you don't think things have gotten much, much worse in Mexico and Central America over the past few years, you haven't been paying attention. Well, except for the Honduras, which I think has had one of the highest murder rates in the world since the 1990s.

Okay, I did google that to be sure- here are the nations with the highest homicide rates, according to the UN:

COUNTRIES
Honduras: 90.4 (per 100,000)
Venezuela: 53.7
Belize: 44.7
El Salvador: 41.2
Guatemala: 39.9
Jamaica: 39.3
Swaziland: 33.8
Saint Kitts and Nevis: 33.6
South Africa: 31.0
Colombia: 30.8

I was talking about Central America, not Mexico. On the lists I checked of the most dangerous countries in the world, there weren't any countries in Central America on there. There was a country in South America on the list. Brazil was on the list. Brazil has one of the highest murder rates in the world. Brazil has had 1 million people murdered in the last 30 years.

Even in Mexico, one of your articles said that 1,180 kids under 18 were murdered in 2009. In the US in 2009 there were 1400 kids under 18 that were murdered. Our population is obviously bigger, so even though we have more kids murdered, the murder rate is still lower here.

Edit: I actually just did another search and the list they had at Huffington did show a few countries in Central America in the top 10.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

If DACA is the thing I think it is (I'm sorry I'm guessing; I'm just back from seeing the doctor because I've been sick a week now and my google strength is not at full), it was established because of concerns that kids coming here from Central America and immediately getting turned back would end up victims of child trafficking before they got back home. Now that there is a deluge of kids coming in, the US has to do something else.

I don't think you can blame the WH for the rumors. As Mark Twain, or Winston Churchill, or somebody, said, a lie gets halfway around the world while the truth is still pulling on its pants.

I hope you are feeling better. Are you still sick?

Here is DACA on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferre...dhood_Arrivals

As I was saying before, even though Obama is claiming that DACA doesn't apply to these current kids, it might as well apply since the kids are just being released with the stipulation that they report to ICE within a month. That's basically as good as asylum. These kids are smart to come here. They'll probably be able to stay.