Boring Derby??

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Yep, the favorite always wins the Derby. I don't listen to the "experts", the "analysts" and don't care what they say. I learned that I long time ago. I handicap and pick horses the same for any race, Derby or a 10K claiming. There ya go, my secret is out.

Yep that statement above welcomes people like you to bet every day. Thanks for contributing to the pools.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Yep, the favorite always wins the Derby. I don't listen to the "experts", the "analysts" and don't care what they say. I learned that I long time ago. I handicap and pick horses the same for any race, Derby or a 10K claiming. There ya go, my secret is out.

Never mind that in the decades of the 80s & 90s, not one favorite won.

[Danzig]

I have only one complaint regarding the race.
I don't know who that dipshit couple was (he had a rose hat) but they need never appear again.

Thought the finish was good, I like having horses together with the finish coming up.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by largo1

I have greatly enjoyed the coverage in the past, just not this year. I enjoy watching the vignettes about each horse and owner/trainer/jockey. I know some people don't like that 'fluff" but I want to hear about, and see the horses.I don't know why 2 ice skaters have to play such a big role on Derby Day. In the past the "hoopla" as we call it has been really entertaining to watch. I don't want to turn on the race i minute before post. I want to be entertained.

I watched a complete broadcast of the Derby from the 80's on Youtube a few weeks ago and it was so much more enjoyable.

[somerfrost]

Come on folks, it's the Derby...I hear the same old tired complaints every year. Look, TV networks are successful by playing to their audience, how much of their audience is made up of hard core horse players? I suspect that the majority of those who were at CD yesterday attend once a year and the TV audience...many don't know which end of the horse goes into the gate first. They tune in for entertainment...the same folks who enjoy shows like Fashion Police and Entertainment Tonight, do you think they are interested in handicapping insights? Sure inane puff pieces by figure skaters and focus on hats and drinks drives us crazy but it's what the TV audience at large wants...grin and bare it!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Come on folks, it's the Derby...I hear the same old tired complaints every year. Look, TV networks are successful by playing to their audience, how much of their audience is made up of hard core horse players? I suspect that the majority of those who were at CD yesterday attend once a year and the TV audience...many don't know which end of the horse goes into the gate first. They tune in for entertainment...the same folks who enjoy shows like Fashion Police and Entertainment Tonight, do you think they are interested in handicapping insights? Sure inane puff pieces by figure skaters and focus on hats and drinks drives us crazy but it's what the TV audience at large wants...grin and bare it!

EGG-ZACH-LEE

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

...grin and bare it!

I was unaware there was any baring going on at the Derby. Are you sure you're not thinking of the Preakness?

[ateamstupid]

I thought the coverage was great. We beg for racing to get national coverage and then do nothing but bitch when we get it. Yeah there was some vacuous crap, but there was also plenty of nuts and bolts coverage and plenty of well-produced drama.

As for the Derby itself, yes, it was boring as hell. Merry-go-round with nobody getting involved from the back. Whether you won or lost, that was not an exciting race other than the brief battle between Firing Line and AP.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I thought the coverage was great. We beg for racing to get national coverage and then do nothing but bitch when we get it. Yeah there was some vacuous crap, but there was also plenty of nuts and bolts coverage and plenty of well-produced drama.

As for the Derby itself, yes, it was boring as hell. Merry-go-round with nobody getting involved from the back. Whether you won or lost, that was not an exciting race other than the brief battle between Firing Line and AP.

I mostly agree Joey, but Johnny Weir dressed as Foghorn Leghorn was a bit too much for me.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pointman

I mostly agree Joey, but Johnny Weir dressed as Foghorn Leghorn was a bit too much for me.

LOL. Ideally they wouldn't have a recurring role on the broadcast, but I don't know how anyone can say they "hated" NBC's coverage.

[TheSpyder]

and why not some coverage and interviews of the infield. Come on people, I've been five times and if that's not entertainment, I don't know what is..
......from what I could remember.

I mean is it too politically incorrect to show a bunch of smashed people having a great spring time experience?

Are you people not born from the Beulah thread?

If they're so scared to go in, send a drone over the crowd. Capital FUN.

I mean really...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Come on folks, it's the Derby...I hear the same old tired complaints every year. Look, TV networks are successful by playing to their audience, how much of their audience is made up of hard core horse players? I suspect that the majority of those who were at CD yesterday attend once a year and the TV audience...many don't know which end of the horse goes into the gate first. They tune in for entertainment...the same folks who enjoy shows like Fashion Police and Entertainment Tonight, do you think they are interested in handicapping insights? Sure inane puff pieces by figure skaters and focus on hats and drinks drives us crazy but it's what the TV audience at large wants...grin and bare it!

I refuse to accept that I cannot complain about them trying to cater to the survivor/honeybooboo/dancing with the stars/fashion police crowd.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Come on folks, it's the Derby...I hear the same old tired complaints every year. Look, TV networks are successful by playing to their audience, how much of their audience is made up of hard core horse players? I suspect that the majority of those who were at CD yesterday attend once a year and the TV audience...many don't know which end of the horse goes into the gate first. They tune in for entertainment...the same folks who enjoy shows like Fashion Police and Entertainment Tonight, do you think they are interested in handicapping insights? Sure inane puff pieces by figure skaters and focus on hats and drinks drives us crazy but it's what the TV audience at large wants...grin and bare it!

No, I cannot agree with you at all.

If you want change you have to be vocal and if something that could be vastly improved never is one can at least bitch about it.

There is no excuse.

I cringed when I read however far back it was that NBC had secured the rights to the broadcast for X number of years, how ever many it was.

My friends who are not in to horse racing at all thought it was the most inane waste of time...

A beautiful thrilling and historic sport deserves better. I'll bet you one day, when NBC is done with it, some other network invests the time and resources and does it right.

This is just silly, pointless fluff and it is maddening to try to defend such a unique and riveting sport.

Sorry, makes me sick. I will not keep my mouth shut.

Originally Posted by Danzig

I refuse to accept that I cannot complain about them trying to cater to the survivor/honeybooboo/dancing with the stars/fashion police crowd.

Right!

[ElPrado]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I have only one complaint regarding the race.
I don't know who that dipshit couple was (he had a rose hat) but they need never appear again.

Thought the finish was good, I like having horses together with the finish coming up.

That was Johnny Weir again. NBC needed to find something to pay them for.

[Benny]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

No, I cannot agree with you at all.

If you want change you have to be vocal and if something that could be vastly improved never is one can at least bitch about it.

There is no excuse.

I cringed when I read however far back it was that NBC had secured the rights to the broadcast for X number of years, how ever many it was.

My friends who are not in to horse racing at all thought it was the most inane waste of time...

A beautiful thrilling and historic sport deserves better. I'll bet you one day, when NBC is done with it, some other network invests the time and resources and does it right.

This is just silly, pointless fluff and it is maddening to try to defend such a unique and riveting sport.

Sorry, makes me sick. I will not keep my mouth shut.



Right!

HERE, HERE - dog and pony shows do not shed light positively on the sport,but offer the lowest common denominator of catering .o the whims of the morons . This wouldnot have been a big deal as i normally mute it except for the races, BUT, TVG SUCKS. and had no video of te races,so i had to pay more attention to the tv.to seethe races i bet onand they fit in the other races amongst the fluff pieces without much builup , hEnce my negative expErience.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ElPrado

That was Johnny Weir again. NBC needed to find something to pay them for.

Can they pay him to go away?
she seemed ok, but i could not care less who people on facebook or twits think will win.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

No, I cannot agree with you at all.

If you want change you have to be vocal and if something that could be vastly improved never is one can at least bitch about it.

There is no excuse.

I cringed when I read however far back it was that NBC had secured the rights to the broadcast for X number of years, how ever many it was.

My friends who are not in to horse racing at all thought it was the most inane waste of time...

A beautiful thrilling and historic sport deserves better. I'll bet you one day, when NBC is done with it, some other network invests the time and resources and does it right.

This is just silly, pointless fluff and it is maddening to try to defend such a unique and riveting sport.

Sorry, makes me sick. I will not keep my mouth shut.



Right!

Oh a great deal about it was ridiculous, but it just got the highest ratings since 1992. Apparently whatever they're doing works. I get complaining about just focusing on spectacle, but people love their sound and fury, don't they? Personally I wish they'd covered some of the stories we'd heard about in the other areas of the media. Dortmund's breeder's story that I posted earlier was making the rounds and yet the most you get from the tv coverage is 'wow what a big horse,' an interview with Kaleem Shah, and asking Baffert about having 2 top horses. Nice and all, but not taking advantage of a perfectly good excuse to bawl like a baby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Oh a great deal about it was ridiculous, but it just got the highest ratings since 1992. Apparently whatever they're doing works. I get complaining about just focusing on spectacle, but people love their sound and fury, don't they? Personally I wish they'd covered some of the stories we'd heard about in the other areas of the media. Dortmund's breeder's story that I posted earlier was making the rounds and yet the most you get from the tv coverage is 'wow what a big horse,' an interview with Kaleem Shah, and asking Baffert about having 2 top horses. Nice and all, but not taking advantage of a perfectly good excuse to bawl like a baby.

I would like to think more people watched because they heard that we had a really good field this year.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by pointman

I mostly agree Joey, but Johnny Weir dressed as Foghorn Leghorn was a bit too much for me.

Heck, I'm sorry I missed that. Seriously. Foghorn Leghorn has always been a big overlay among Looney Tune characters, in my book. But talk about a deep field...

--Dunbar

[LARHAGE]

This is why I record the show, I watch a couple of other recorded shows and than go back to watch the Derby and all the undercard races so I can fast forward through all the redundant commercials and the crap like those stupid ice skaters, I just don't answer any calls or texts so I don't know who won the race.