Which horse in past BC's...? - Page 2

#21 10-17-2006, 07:44 PM

Slew O' Gold and Riboletta

Danzig · #22 10-17-2006, 09:22 PM

[quote=Slewbopper]

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

... was your biggest, stone-cold lock, no chance he/she will lose, autmomatic winner on paper...but lost? Where it shocked you he/she lost? Am i making any sense with this?

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Slew O Gold

Regarding winning picks at a price...Anees was my best...Longshots I got nipped on...Miafara, twice. I bet Landseer in Rocks race at Arl.

a healthy slew would have won that race. bad foot, they only ran him to help out the bc start up. funny that he and wild again ended up at the same farm.

Danzig · #23 10-17-2006, 09:25 PM

azeri
rock of gibraltar

AeWingnut · #24 10-17-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

... was your biggest, stone-cold lock, no chance he/she will lose, autmomatic winner on paper...but lost? Where it shocked you he/she lost? Am i making any sense with this?

For me, it was the Rock of Gibraltor ("THE ROCK") in the '02 BC Mile. The horse was undefeated that year and he was a Euro. 'Nuff said. I remember he ran that whole race at the back of the pack... like he was really sluggish, and then he came with a huge run, but it wasn't quite enough... That one still makes me scratch my head...

I had DomeDriver on a tip from the Racingpost website.

those euros are hard to figure. they don't give fractions and their comments are a joke

#25 10-17-2006, 10:00 PM

[quote=Danzig188]

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper

a healthy slew would have won that race. bad foot, they only ran him to help out the bc start up. funny that he and wild again ended up at the same farm.

It cost Slew O' Gold HOY. John Henry stayed home and won the award. I was ticked.

repent · #26 10-17-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Going back to the 90s, if you had seen Lure run, you might say that he was the best US bred, owned, and trained turf horse that you had seen. I recall his repeat attempt (BC Mile) at Santa Anita in '93. Although I don't care for Mike Battaglia much -- chalky handicapper, terrible announcer -- he uncorked a memorable line when he said before the race, "Lure could start from the parking lot and win." (Lure was in the 12 post, a tough chore anywhere.) While he might not have been considered a natural for the turf -- given his ample dirt career before the switch -- he was fantastic for two years plus.

yeah,
you may be right.
Ive seen Lure,
but only on tape(selected races).
KJoy was the best US bred,owned and trained turf horse I have seen every race for.
hes the best one I have cashed a ticket on.
hes the best one that I have capped a race for.......................etc

thats what I meant.
Im not saying he was better than JHenry(who I have obviously seen tape of) or any of the other greats.
I do think he deserves to be mentioned with them though.

Repent

#27 10-17-2006, 11:02 PM

my "lock" this year is definately...
Lemons Forever (Distaff)
she loves CD, and will get a good pace set up
Dallas is deadly!

1st_Saturday_in_May · #28 10-17-2006, 11:28 PM

Leroidesanimaux, Kitten's Joy, Sightseek

#29 10-17-2006, 11:43 PM

All 'locks' or close to what people would say a lock is - all won that I can think of.....which was only a few because proverbial locks rarely come along in the Breeders' Cup...

The horse that I really thought would win that didn't was Medaglia de Oro in the '04 Classic, but he should have won IMO...he was dueled into submission by Congaree through the first mile of the race and held on very bravely after putting that horse away to be a valiant second....

If Congaree isn't in that race pushing him hard, Medaglia wins easy over Pleasantly Perfect....thats the first horse I really expected to win that didn't as far as what first comes to mind with me....

ateamstupid · #30 10-18-2006, 12:08 AM

I'd say either Kitten's Joy or Leroidesanimaux.

dalakhani · #31 10-18-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

All 'locks' or close to what people would say a lock is - all won that I can think of.....which was only a few because proverbial locks rarely come along in the Breeders' Cup...

The horse that I really thought would win that didn't was Medaglia de Oro in the '04 Classic, but he should have won IMO...he was dueled into submission by Congaree through the first mile of the race and held on very bravely after putting that horse away to be a valiant second....

If Congaree isn't in that race pushing him hard, Medaglia wins easy over Pleasantly Perfect....thats the first horse I really expected to win that didn't as far as what first comes to mind with me....

It was actually '03 Joel and i didnt consider MDO too much of a lock considering he never won past 9 furlongs on a dry track. I did like that horse though. Game as they come and a machine at 9 furlongs.

Of course the Rock was a big surprise but not as big as Ouija Board last year. I was really surprised to see her go down.

Danzig · #32 10-18-2006, 07:09 AM

[quote=Bold Reasoning]

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

It cost Slew O' Gold HOY. John Henry stayed home and won the award. I was ticked.

yeah, they were both a bit beat up....can't say i blame them for not running john. both great horses, but i'd have voted for SOG!!

jpops757 · #33 10-18-2006, 09:31 AM

Just the opposit of locks was myself capping Spain and Beter Talk nNow only to talk myself out of. Just a case of not having the KNUTTS to play and let the odds tell me something otherwise.

#34 10-18-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

It was actually '03 Joel and i didnt consider MDO too much of a lock considering he never won past 9 furlongs on a dry track. I did like that horse though. Game as they come and a machine at 9 furlongs.

Of course the Rock was a big surprise but not as big as Ouija Board last year. I was really surprised to see her go down.

Yeah, menat '03....the Rock was a lock for the most part, but I know how hard the Mile and Sprint are to win, espescially for come-from-behinders - so I wasn't as surprised there.....he was heads and shoulders the best though...no doubt about it...his turn of foot when he got loose was amazing.....he was flying past horses like their hooves were cemented in the turf course.....that finish, although not a winning one - was a great consolation for me and I'm sure most racing fans....

Oh, and Medaglia would have won the Classic at 1 1/4 miles had he not been pushed so hard by the classy Congaree...I really believe that...

Seattleallstar · #35 10-18-2006, 12:02 PM

RIBOLETTA

randallscott35 · #36 10-18-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

RIBOLETTA

Has to be. Couldn't fathom her losing with her form the way it was.

--Note, the people who said FuPeg are crazy. He was astoundingly overbet and had raced so little after the Preakness that year. The only shock was his price. Not that he was up the track.

FATPIANO · #37 10-18-2006, 12:47 PM

Itsallgreektome

Dunbar · #38 10-18-2006, 02:15 PM

I've never had the "lock" experience. It would probably require a walkover for me to consider a bet a "lock".

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

All 'locks' or close to what people would say a lock is - all won that I can think of.....which was only a few because proverbial locks rarely come along in the Breeders' Cup...

How about Easy Goer in the Juvenile? He was a huge fav, and finished 2nd to 9-1 Is It True.

--Dunbar