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Old 06-25-2015, 10:42 AM
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Indeed. But what does it matter. We are seriously screwed anyway. Legislators are bought, and what they write into law means nothing. This is all pretend.
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Indeed. But what does it matter. We are seriously screwed anyway. Legislators are bought, and what they write into law means nothing. This is all pretend.
Please post links to where the decision to stop manufacturing General Lee toys was in any way due to legislation passed by any government, local, state or national. This was a business choice made by a company. They decided continuing to manufacture the toy is bad for business, so they are stopping. This is purely market-driven.

Here are some other toys that are no longer made:

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Please post links to where the decision to stop manufacturing General Lee toys was in any way due to legislation passed by any government, local, state or national.
My screed was directed at news which developed this morning, not connected with the flag issue but more so with governmental trends. I sincerely apologize for causing any confusion, consternation or offense.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:58 AM
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Please post links to where the decision to stop manufacturing General Lee toys was in any way due to legislation passed by any government, local, state or national. This was a business choice made by a company. They decided continuing to manufacture the toy is bad for business, so they are stopping. This is purely market-driven.

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/767254/
Yes because the General Lee was painted specifically, and for no reason other, than to promulgate hate. To follow your absurd logic, the Network Executives and everyone that ever watched the television show, as well as any actor that ever participated in the making of the program are all guilty racists by proxy as well.

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Yes because the General Lee was painted specifically, and for no reason other, than to promulgate hate. To follow your absurd logic, the Network Executives and everyone that ever watched the television show, as well as any actor that ever participated in the making of the program are all guilty racists by proxy as well.

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Please block me. Please. I'm begging you.
your reply had nothing to do with what gr said, that's why i put that. it made no sense. and, feel free to go to user settings and do as you wish.
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Yes because the General Lee was painted specifically, and for no reason other, than to promulgate hate. To follow your absurd logic, the Network Executives and everyone that ever watched the television show, as well as any actor that ever participated in the making of the program are all guilty racists by proxy as well.

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Meanwhile two more churches burned...the one in Macon was confirmed arson and the NC under investigation


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Political correctness is undergoing what is referred to in Latin as "reductio ad absurdum."
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Indeed. But what does it matter. We are seriously screwed anyway. Legislators are bought, and what they write into law means nothing. This is all pretend.
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The funny thing is, there are as many tax paying, liberty loving Americans that find THAT flag offensive (myself NOT included). Good luck getting IT taken down. The hypocrisy of the fringe far left is boundless. So worried about people's feelings and the *hurt* that a flag causes to people who choose to be offended by it. lolololol
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The funny thing is, there are as many tax paying, liberty loving Americans that find THAT flag offensive (myself NOT included). Good luck getting IT taken down. The hypocrisy of the fringe far left is boundless. So worried about people's feelings and the *hurt* that a flag causes to people who choose to be offended by it. lolololol
apparently you are either choosing to ignore, or just don't care, what the confederate battle flag represented and continues to represent. it has NOTHING in common with the rainbow flag.
one is a people trying to get treated equally, the other flew over a people determined to remain supreme over others, to own them. it continued to show that when it started appearing again, during the civil rights movement.
so, yeah, go ahead and ignore all that history...pretend it's just about 'feelings'.
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apparently you are either choosing to ignore, or just don't care, what the confederate battle flag represented and continues to represent. it has NOTHING in common with the rainbow flag.
one is a people trying to get treated equally, the other flew over a people determined to remain supreme over others, to own them. it continued to show that when it started appearing again, during the civil rights movement.
so, yeah, go ahead and ignore all that history...pretend it's just about 'feelings'.
I didn't say one had anything at all in common with the other, you simp. I said that there are as many people (mostly deeply religious folks) that choose to be offended by the rainbow flag as there are people who choose to be offended by the stars and bars.

If feelings are the top priority this country has nowadays (you yourself haven't taken 5 minutes to STFU about it in a week) it's hypocritical to embrace one action and bathe in the schadenfreude of another.

But who would expect anything less from you and GR?

Don't bother responding to me. Please.
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Old 06-26-2015, 04:18 PM
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apparently you are either choosing to ignore, or just don't care, what the confederate battle flag represented and continues to represent. it has NOTHING in common with the rainbow flag.
one is a people trying to get treated equally, the other flew over a people determined to remain supreme over others, to own them. it continued to show that when it started appearing again, during the civil rights movement.
so, yeah, go ahead and ignore all that history...pretend it's just about 'feelings'.
You have no f.ucking clue what the confederate battle flag represented, you imbecile.

Grant had slaves 3 years after Robert E. Lee had given up his.

Tired of you fat stupid idiots with your pantsuit agenda. What you need to do is get in the f.ucking kitchen and shut the f.uck up with your worthless know-nothing condescension.

You're the biggest idiot on this forum, zig. And that's past, present and future.
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Women's liberation gave us George W. Bush and Barack Hussein Obama.

Thanks a lot, ladies. Continue to dazzle us with your knowledge of politics.

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MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.

FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.

MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.

FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.

Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.

FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.

FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.

The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.

The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.

The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".

FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.

FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.

FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH - The South revered slavery.

FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.

FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.

FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.

FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.

MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.

FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.
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I didn't say one had anything at all in common with the other, you simp. I said that there are as many people (mostly deeply religious folks) that choose to be offended by the rainbow flag as there are people who choose to be offended by the stars and bars.

If feelings are the top priority this country has nowadays (you yourself haven't taken 5 minutes to STFU about it in a week) it's hypocritical to embrace one action and bathe in the schadenfreude of another.

But who would expect anything less from you and GR?

Don't bother responding to me. Please.
Well, I wasn't aware that the rainbow flag was flying over the grounds of a state government. Folks have the right to display any flag they want in their home or backyard, individuals can carry it in a parade or have it on a bumper sticker but government is supposed to represent all the people, arrogantly flying a symbol offensive to many folks makes a mockery not
only of their feelings but the whole country.
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