A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...

[OldDog]

Why are the relatives of the Benghazi victims all lying about me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAUDS-aLGjI

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

her comments at the debate, invoking 9-11 as defense for taking wall street money, was beyond the pale.
her husband signed the repeal of glass/steagall, and they love giving her funds..
a huge weak point for her.

Speaking as someone living in NYC during that time, there was a lot of fear in the aftermath that the big financial firms were all going to pick up and move someplace far away from NYC. I get what Clinton was trying to say, which was that it was her job as a Senator representing NY State to do what was best for the state, which was keeping those firms based in the city. Of course, in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, getting campaign donations from Wall Street is incredibly bad PR, but in 2001 the city was really afraid that it's place as the financial capital of the world was over.

I'm not the biggest fan of PolitiFact, but this is a pretty good brief look at Glass-Steagall and the claim that its repeal was the cause of the recession. (It wasn't: the state of affairs that led to the collapse had been building since the 1970s):

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ng-do-financi/

Ultimately, the President has really no control over the economy. Now, things like lying the nation into a trillion dollar war in the Middle East, that he does.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Ultimately, the President has really no control over the economy. Now, things like lying the nation into a trillion dollar war in the Middle East, that he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by OldDog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

Talking to sound tough and actually sending men and women off to war (without paying for it) are two different things. The war was started in 2003.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_773038.html

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Talking to sound tough and actually sending men and women off to war (without paying for it) are two different things. The war was started in 2003.

The Resolution was passed in October, 2002. All the Dem legislators in the video, except Nancy Pelosi, voted yea.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by OldDog

The Resolution was passed in October, 2002. All the Dem legislators in the video, except Nancy Pelosi, voted yea.

How many GOP legislators voted for the resolution? Or do they not count?

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

How many GOP legislators voted for the resolution? Or do they not count?

They all count. The point is that it wasn't a strictly partisan vote, unlike, say, the "affordable" care act.

[OldDog]

Could use lesson in self-awareness

[joeydb]

[OldDog]

Time to shore up Hillary.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ned-dem-debate

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by joeydb

This is why I google anything Joeydb quotes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clint...cietyquote.asp


Which is not to say the sentiment is necessarily bad. At least, not according to this guy:

[Rudeboyelvis]

Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh

[Danzig]

if anyone would know about investigations and charges, i guess it would be tom delay.
and a grand jury would have to recommend charges.

[OldDog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd_QWSsYxo8

[OldDog]

Hillary Clinton on Wall Street, Paid Speeches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHcwObLQem4

Oh, really?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...ons-in/2264074

[Danzig]

'As Sanders has put her on the defensive about her Wall Street contributions, Clinton has responded that the campaign money does not influence her approach to regulating the financial industry.'

bullshit


ok, this topic made me wonder about other candidates, so I did a search of 'wall street donations candidates'

here's the first item on the list, with a chart of who got what....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/these-...45726933.html#

amazing.

[OldDog]

That's interesting. The TBT article reports that Clinton took in $21.4M of her total $157.8M from "donors at hedge funds, banks, insurance companies and other financial-services firms," while the Yahoo piece reports $6.3M of $97.8M. That's a strong December push.

[Danzig]

I wonder how they feel about giving a fortune to jeb*? not a very good roi.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Tom DeLay: The Feds are ready to indict Clinton:

>>>"They're ready to recommend an indictment, and they also say that if the attorney general does not indict, they're going public. So one way or another, either she's going to be indicted and that process begins, or we try her in the public eye with her campaign,” he told the conservative news outlet. “One way or another, she's going to have to face these charges."<<<

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...indict-clinton

Ruh Roh

Could we really see a perp walk, live on TV, handcuffs and all?