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Old 10-22-2006, 02:27 PM
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Spite the Devil finished up the track somewhere. Is he done? How about Naughty New Yorker he finished 6th. Is he done too?? If Funny Cide deserves retirement for finishing 4th, then you should demand retirement from anyone that finishes behind him!
This is grossly inaccurate. Most people on this board wanted to see Funny Cide retired to enjoy the rest of his life and get away from the grind that is racing. He has given so much to the fans of the sport, many enjoyable races and great memories. I know a good amount of people who became fans watching Funny Cide run to the Triple Crown, both on the talent he exerted and the great story he carried with him.

I think it is obvious this horse has given almost close to all he has for his owners and fans. It's time for someone to give back to him, and take him off the track to spend a life befitting of the champion he is.
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Old 10-22-2006, 02:38 PM
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This is grossly inaccurate. Most people on this board wanted to see Funny Cide retired to enjoy the rest of his life and get away from the grind that is racing. He has given so much to the fans of the sport, many enjoyable races and great memories. I know a good amount of people who became fans watching Funny Cide run to the Triple Crown, both on the talent he exerted and the great story he carried with him.

I think it is obvious this horse has given almost close to all he has for his owners and fans. It's time for someone to give back to him, and take him off the track to spend a life befitting of the champion he is.
Well said Suffolk! Here here!
What Funny Cide has done for NY breds deserves respect.
I vote to let him graze. He's done more than enough.
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Old 10-22-2006, 03:53 PM
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Soo all of you are saying.....

As long as you don't win the Kentucky Derby....

It's OK to grind? Spite the Devil is just as old as FC and it's okay for him to grind just because he didn't win the Derby?

In my opinion, every horse deserves importance....and if you think a 6 year old who just finished 4th by 1 and a half lengths in a stakes deserves retirement, then there are far more that deserve it as well.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:01 PM
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that's for sure...geesh, he can't win every race for cryin out loud...http://www.racereplays.com/nybreds/i...name=20060430a
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Old 10-22-2006, 05:46 PM
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Soo all of you are saying.....

As long as you don't win the Kentucky Derby....

It's OK to grind? Spite the Devil is just as old as FC and it's okay for him to grind just because he didn't win the Derby?

In my opinion, every horse deserves importance....and if you think a 6 year old who just finished 4th by 1 and a half lengths in a stakes deserves retirement, then there are far more that deserve it as well.
You are totally missing the point. This is not based on one race. This is based on a body of work. As time has gone on, the horse is not what he used to be, and has shown signs of disinterest in racing. Alot of people who know more than you and I have said the same. There is a time to realize when the button has been pushed too many times. Nobody is saying he should be retired because he lost by a length or two in the Empire Classic.
We are saying that over the last two years, his performances have regressed and is clearly not the level horse that can compete too much in graded company.

This isnt a knock on the horse, nor is it a statement that he cant continue to race for smaller purses NY bred stakes. He certainly can. But, what is the gain, other than money?

At this point its just selfish keeping the horse out there hoping to pull down some extra cash for the owners. He has already given a whole lot to Sackatoga, and it's time they gave to him for once.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:20 PM
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I agree with SS and will take it a step further as many believe if he finds the right level, he will be competitive. I say he won't and he will never win again. And, as they lower the bar to find his "winning" level I say the horse will simply show he wants some oats and sunshine, and not being made to run fast.

Unless we see him at Mountaineer. I like the Tyson analogy. He's just finished.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:35 PM
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Mike Tyson, Ricky Henderson, Jerry Rice, Funny Cide.

Enough said. Hang up the horseshoes.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:03 PM
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Mike Tyson, Ricky Henderson, Jerry Rice, Funny Cide.

Enough said. Hang up the horseshoes.
Amen Rev. Well said.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:12 PM
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Funny Cides owners have done a fabulous job spotting his races. They should get a special eclipse for really being sharp. Poor Barclay and Poor Funny Cide, they are at the hands of the owners.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:15 PM
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Funny has made $240,000 this year. He also has more wins and more 100+ Beyer's than Perfect Drift has this year. So Funny Cide needs to retire and Perfect Drift is going to hit the board in the Classic? I just don't get it. We should be thrilled that any stakes horses are racing 10 times a year, not to mention a dual classic winner racing 10 times in a year.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:16 PM
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PD wouldnt have won any of the races Funny has ran in this year.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:20 PM
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PD wouldnt have won any of the races Funny has ran in this year.
Exactly my point. Yet we have tons of people saying they should retire Funny and that Perfect Drift has a chance in the Classic.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:25 PM
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Mike Tyson, Ricky Henderson, Jerry Rice, Funny Cide.

Enough said. Hang up the horseshoes.
Don't put Rickie in that group. I talked to him in '03 when he was playing for the Newark Bears in Bridgeport against the Bluefish. He signed on with the Dodgers. He left the Atlantic League leading the league in hitting.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:27 PM
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I dont think people expect perfect drift to win, he never wins. Funny Cide will always be a Derby winner, a gutsy gelding. PD is the slow, boring, pick up the pieces gelding.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:57 PM
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hes a gelding what else are they to do..run him...and run him..nyra still has a semi load of posters to give away,,and so do i.. anyone want one..
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:16 PM
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wow.

all those on here decrying the 'cruelty' of keeping funny cide at the races will be griping like made when bernardini retires...hell, ap warrior retired as well....oh, it's not right they'll say, it's too soon. he should race more. why, if it's so cruel?? why not let them go out a winner, rather than plodding along winning six figures a year when the obviously don't want to do it anymore.

damned if you do, damned if you don't. can't please any or everyone, so i hope everyone just tries to please themselves.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:31 PM
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wow.

all those on here decrying the 'cruelty' of keeping funny cide at the races will be griping like made when bernardini retires...hell, ap warrior retired as well....oh, it's not right they'll say, it's too soon. he should race more. why, if it's so cruel?? why not let them go out a winner, rather than plodding along winning six figures a year when the obviously don't want to do it anymore.

damned if you do, damned if you don't. can't please any or everyone, so i hope everyone just tries to please themselves.
This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:34 PM
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This rant coming from someone whose username ran three times. I saw his NW2 at Saratoga about '80. It was his last race
my screen name has nothing to do with my beliefs on running a horse. danzig was retired due to a serious knee injury... if you're advocating running unsound horses, you won't get much company in that thought.

funny cide is sound, he seems healthy, and unless he has shown he no longer wants to run, i see no reason to quit.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:01 PM
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[quote=Danzig188]my screen name has nothing to do with my beliefs on running a horse. danzig was retired due to a serious knee injury... if you're advocating running unsound horses, you won't get much company in that thought.

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If I remember correctly, Danzig was a Woody/Henryk D horse. He was a son of Northern Dancer who retired after 3 races as a 3 yo and now has two million stakes winners and 5 million unsound offspring following in his footsteps
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:02 PM
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I dont think people expect perfect drift to win, he never wins. Funny Cide will always be a Derby winner, a gutsy gelding. PD is the slow, boring, pick up the pieces gelding.
I think that PD wins.
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