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Old 10-22-2006, 06:57 PM
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He should be headed to the Federal Pen! JT
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:02 PM
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The sad thing is he really can ride. Trainers know he cheats, we all know he cheats. Infact he was the main cheat in Jersey when he used to ride there. Thats why his career went so icecold about 3 years ago, because he was a noted cheat. Im not surprised hes back to his old tricks.
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:33 PM
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LOL funny about him eyeing up your lady@the track. jose was in the airport with us this year coming back from the claiming crown and he was tryin 2 holla at a few girls in line while i was talking to him and we were boarding the plane. he does have a girlfriend here now somebody known at the track, i wont name names. yes jose can ride but you call him a cheat in NJ? lol maybe he was riding for the cheaters there meaning gill and shuman. he rode several for us at arlington and came by the barn alot in the mornings, i like the guy alot personally and yes he is a very talented rider, but obviously this isnt good! all the jocks here are crooks huh blue eyes and ride over weight? LMFAO news flash alotta jocks at alotta tracks ride over the listed weight
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:36 PM
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LOL funny about him eyeing up your lady@the track. jose was in the airport with us this year coming back from the claiming crown and he was tryin 2 holla at a few girls in line while i was talking to him and we were boarding the plane. he does have a girlfriend here now somebody known at the track, i wont name names. yes jose can ride but you call him a cheat in NJ? lol maybe he was riding for the cheaters there meaning gill and shuman. he rode several for us at arlington and came by the barn alot in the mornings, i like the guy alot personally and yes he is a very talented rider, but obviously this isnt good! all the jocks here are crooks huh blue eyes and ride over weight? LMFAO news flash alotta jocks at alotta tracks ride over the listed weight

Come on playa, that couldn't have been more obvious, worked enough to get third...what is nuts is that I am guessing he wasn't expecting a 5/2 to win......
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:40 PM
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well people call for stiffer penalties but howcome nobody cries about patin being allowed to return after the valhol incident. in my opinion if your caught usuing a buzzer in a race automatic 10 years, second time gone then you wouldnt have to worry about it no more. people cry for them to be leanient on pval which is a absolute joke condiering hes had way more chances than the average jock would
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:33 AM
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well people call for stiffer penalties but howcome nobody cries about patin being allowed to return after the valhol incident. in my opinion if your caught usuing a buzzer in a race automatic 10 years, second time gone then you wouldnt have to worry about it no more. people cry for them to be leanient on pval which is a absolute joke condiering hes had way more chances than the average jock would
The guy should have gotten his hands cut off. Honest mistakes I can ALWAYS understand but **** like that should be dealt with Russian style. Regarding PVal, the guy has only cheated himself, not stiffed a horse.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:03 AM
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I guess the only question is did the trainer put him up to it? I'm not assuming that, but it is a question that should be asked by the stewards.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:07 AM
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well people call for stiffer penalties but howcome nobody cries about patin being allowed to return after the valhol incident. in my opinion if your caught usuing a buzzer in a race automatic 10 years, second time gone then you wouldnt have to worry about it no more. people cry for them to be leanient on pval which is a absolute joke condiering hes had way more chances than the average jock would
Playa Pval has never, ever been accused of not riding his mount to anything less than 150%. Thats why he always has a strong support base of people trying to help him out.
I can name a couple of guys who have ridden in NY the last 20 years who should have been tossed for grabbing horses a long time ago, yet nothing was ever done to either one of them.
I'll take a guy like Pval who only harms himself over guys who grab horses any day.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:42 PM
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Playa Pval has never, ever been accused of not riding his mount to anything less than 150%. Thats why he always has a strong support base of people trying to help him out.
I can name a couple of guys who have ridden in NY the last 20 years who should have been tossed for grabbing horses a long time ago, yet nothing was ever done to either one of them.
I'll take a guy like Pval who only harms himself over guys who grab horses any day.

hey genius what happens if pval shows up high and kills himself and or other people? god forbid people lose money gambling but its ok if other people or animals are harmed physically in your book huh?
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:46 PM
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hey genius what happens if pval shows up high and kills himself and or other people? god forbid people lose money gambling but its ok if other people or animals are harmed physically in your book huh?
Hes never harmed anything or anyone except himself, do you have proof otherwise?
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:48 PM
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hey genius what happens if pval shows up high and kills himself and or other people? god forbid people lose money gambling but its ok if other people or animals are harmed physically in your book huh?
What if he shows up in drag?
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:48 PM
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Hes never harmed anything or anyone except himself, do you have proof otherwise?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! i never said he did i said what happens when he does
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:50 PM
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! i never said he did i said what happens when he does
Then thats a REALLy dumb thing you said Playa. hes been riding over 20 years and hasnt done so yet, pretty good reason to believe he won't start now.
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:42 PM
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Then thats a REALLy dumb thing you said Playa. hes been riding over 20 years and hasnt done so yet, pretty good reason to believe he won't start now.

mike you really are being that naive or truly are just that stubborn, no reason 2 continue with this
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:45 PM
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Pval is incredible. Hes hands down the best rider in the game. Everyone has a few skeletons in the closet, Pval going skiing a few times wouldnt scare me off riding him on any of my horses. Guys the goods, whether hes high or not
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:50 PM
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mike you really are being that naive or truly are just that stubborn, no reason 2 continue with this
Playa the guys never done anything wrong in the saddle, and we all grow tired of your logic as dictated by favortism. You always talk up Gomez and fact is not only did he have a drug problem but he WENT TO JAIL over it it was so severe. So which is it, because you can't have selected morals and concerns. Whos being naive now?
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:53 PM
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Gomez couldnt be Pvals Valet
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:58 PM
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Ferrer couldn't be Hank Goldberg's dietician.
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:20 PM
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BTW,Gomez is out here at Anita starting Wednesday.Stay off that damn rail,Garrett(ala Happy Ticket,Circular Quay,TM BLING,SIGFRETO.)

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Old 10-23-2006, 07:42 PM
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all the jocks here are crooks huh blue eyes and ride over weight? LMFAO news flash alotta jocks at alotta tracks ride over the listed weight
Honey, I dated a jock that used to ride at Hawthorne in the winter and I wouldn't exactly say alotta tracks allow "overweights". NY had that deal a while back but why are all the jocks bitching about weight if it's done at alotta tracks? BTW, when I'm talking overweight, I don't mean 2 or 3lbs. More like 10+.
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