cappin the cup.. - Page 2

Scav · #21 10-29-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

You created a name and registered to ask that question. Let me guess, you are a Steelers fan.

KNOCK IT OFF Rev. The guy is new to the board and you shouldn't respond to like that. He is asking a simple question.....

Scav · #22 10-29-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Guess I'm on the other side of the fence with this one. I've been going over the PPs since Wednesday, and while I agree that you shouldn't make your final decisions until you see where everyone is drawn, I feel like it's never too early to start mapping things out..

Me too Ateam, I haven't been looking at PP's at all but I have looked at EVERY horse TG-wise. I studied for 10 days last year and I had four winners, including Pleasant Home and Shirroco(singled). It should be interesting this year. The Classic and F/M Turf are the only place I can find singles (Ouija Board and Bernardini)

#23 10-29-2006, 09:41 PM

I pretty much have my picks. Only post position and an off track will make me change them.

brockguy · #24 10-29-2006, 10:30 PM

breeders cup, ive usually picked at least 2 or 3 of my picks at this stage regardless of draw etc.. Araafa is a massive bet at 5-1 in the Mile..,.... Balletto, Germance and Red Rocks are all my fancies despite not taking their initial price. Ill be happy to settle for PMU

Bogey · #25 10-29-2006, 11:23 PM

Study long, Study wrong. J/K I leave no stone unturned. Depending on PP's Ouija Board on top with Film Maker 2nd and 3rd looks pretty enticing.

#26 10-30-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady

Just curious what is rf? Also I like to wait until the post positions are known. I like to see the works because you can get a look at what horses are liking the track and also see if the horses have developed more, especially the two year olds. You can look at the pps until you are too dizzy.

The "Rasmussen Factor" (or RF) is a term used to describe inbreeding to a superior female in a pedigree through different individuals within 5 generations.

#27 10-30-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey

Study long, Study wrong. J/K I leave no stone unturned. Depending on PP's Ouija Board on top with Film Maker 2nd and 3rd looks pretty enticing.

We're on the same page with the F&M Turf. Film Maker is always the forgotten warrior.

Travis Stone · #28 10-30-2006, 08:37 AM

I'm a huge Film Maker fan but this time she's going to have to out-run Ouija Board and Wait A While. While Ouija Board might have had a long campaign, Wait A While is a monster. Great race.

#29 10-30-2006, 08:48 AM

I dont think Film Maker will win, but I would be shocked if she didnt get a place. She's too consistent. Im looking at Wait a While as an all or nothing type of horse. She's either going to blow the field away or go down in flames. Just the feel I get from her. The form she's shown, I think she's your likely winner over a tired and older Ouija Board, but im going to look at the race and the setup closely before I claim her to be my pick.

brockguy · #30 10-30-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Balletto

I dont think Film Maker will win, but I would be shocked if she didnt get a place. She's too consistent. Im looking at Wait a While as an all or nothing type of horse. She's either going to blow the field away or go down in flames. Just the feel I get from her. The form she's shown, I think she's your likely winner over a tired and older Ouija Board, but im going to look at the race and the setup closely before I claim her to be my pick.

I couldnt say Ouija Board is tired... yeah shes had 7 races this year, some very tough ones against the fellas, but she hasnt run since the start of Sept and can run well fresh

#31 10-30-2006, 09:13 AM

Oh, I think she will be right there at the finish, but im not sure she has the same step she did in the past. She commands respect from EVERYONE. She is one of the greatest fillies to hit the track in the last 20 years without question... I just dont think she's as dominant as she use to be.

brockguy · #32 10-30-2006, 09:19 AM

you may be right, but theres a nice few people over here (not me) that have concluded that she ran the best race of her life last time out against Dylan Thomas in the irish Champion stakes..I dont rate the form as highly as that, but I think the extra furlong the race is run at in churchill will be in her favour.. I still believe that she is a better filly over 12f than 10!

Hwjb · #33 10-30-2006, 09:40 AM

Timeform have got her last two efforts (Nassau win @ Goodwood and runner-up to Dylan Thomas) as the two best performances of her career, both rated on 125. Her Oaks win, Arc third and BCFMT win as a 3-y-o were all rated 124, whilst she didn't put up a single performance in the 120s last season. She's as good as ever if not better, and like you Brock, I feel that she is better at trips further than 10f.

Hwjb · #34 10-30-2006, 09:44 AM

I think there are far better bets to be had on almost every other day of the year, especially as I've tended to wrap up my Flat 'capping by this time of the season, and am concentraing largely on the jumps. Given that I can never know as much about the US horses, and can only have a rough idea of what chance the Euro invaders have against them I tend to watch the BC largely as a spectacle and racing fan, having just a few bets (nothing above 4pts) to further the enjoyment.

#35 10-30-2006, 10:14 AM

Hey Hwjb How about Satwa Queen? Her last looks good enough to run these down and at a big number! BBB

2Hot4TV · #36 10-30-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey

Study long, Study wrong. J/K I leave no stone unturned. Depending on PP's Ouija Board on top with Film Maker 2nd and 3rd looks pretty enticing.

I believe in that one, but in my case its the night before and I will only play a few of the races. I have had some bad secondits for over a month, so I won't play much to win.

Thunder Gulch · #37 10-30-2006, 10:59 AM

I'm like a couple of you here that have been going through it bit by bit since Wednesday. Really just looking for eliminations, improving horses, and trying to get a feel for which ones really belong in this company. I think a couple of races will be impacted by the post draw, so nothing set in ink yet, but it does help to get a feel for the pace setups and cut the field down. No way I could download pp's on Friday or Saturday and do a thorough job. At the end of the day, who knows if it will make a difference because this card is really tough, but at least I'll go to the windows confident in my selections.

2MinsToPost · #38 10-30-2006, 11:19 AM

got some ideas but post position draw is critical in a couple of the races, not a real factor in others due to the placing of the starting gate and the long, long stretch run

i'll probably have, come friday night, all told about 10 hours in the pp's and watching replays of certain horses in certain races

#39 10-30-2006, 11:26 AM

The less I think, the better I do. My best collections have come using the Slew factor; it is a nobrainer for me.

Hwjb · #40 10-30-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Hey Hwjb How about Satwa Queen? Her last looks good enough to run these down and at a big number! BBB

Yeah, she's a leggy, close-coupled filly who is consistent and game. Indifferent to the state of the ground and still improving, she is more likely than most to show her best. She had 6 months off after Dubai, and has run twice since so wont arrive a tired horse, or underprepared. That said, she will likely need to improve a little more to trouble the big two. There are many worse bets on the card than 9/1 about her though!