Businessman Pardoned by Clinton Found Dead - Page 2

Rupert Pupkin · #21 11-03-2006, 05:48 PM

Drudge provides a link today that is damaging to the republicans. It tells how republicans insisted on putting up a website that showed classified information and now we believe that information may have been used by Iran to help their nuclear program.

Rupert Pupkin · #22 11-03-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
This one went on for a while.
Thanks to Crown...here's the story.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,3437095.story

Anyway, Braswell, Roswell...go to ozz h-ell. This is such a desperate attempt to bring up Clinton, and all the others that the looney faco-rightists need to find excuses to blame on others that it is just so laughable that it's beyond pathetic.
I'm sure Hattie Burger has the answers (read the article).
Put on your "moon suits" cause these people are way beyond the planet.
Maybe they can hitch a ride with the folks that were looking to get on the spaceship with the comet. I hope they've bought new sneakers.
Seems they're desperate to get out of here, and I wish them well on their journey. Remember, pack plenty of kool-aid for the journey.
Jim Jones will be your "flight attendent". Your "pilot"...George II.
Good luck! Report back early and often.
10-9-8-7-6-... BLAST OFF!!!!!!!

A desparate attempt by who? A guy who Clinton pardoned died. Even liberal papers like the LA Times carried the story. You're going to blame the republicans for this one too?

AP carried the story and a ton of newspapers printed it. I guess the Associated Press is part of some vast right-wing conspiracy. LOL. You're losing it DTS.

timmgirvan · #23 11-03-2006, 05:52 PM

DTS: I have no stake in this,except a poorly executed joke,lol(gotcha)

timmgirvan · #24 11-03-2006, 05:58 PM

DTS: I read the article and it seemed rather matter of fact. What was it that so bothered you?

Downthestretch55 · #25 11-03-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: I have no stake in this,except a poorly executed joke,lol(gotcha)

LMFAO!!!!!! Timm.

Rupert Pupkin · #26 11-03-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: I read the article and it seemed rather matter of fact. What was it that so bothered you?

That is a good question.

Downthestretch55 · #27 11-03-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: I read the article and it seemed rather matter of fact. What was it that so bothered you?

Timm,
It was very frustrating to even get the article.
There were repeated requests. Read through the entire thread.
So now answer me, how is Clinton (six years ago) in any way relevant to current circumstances?
Is this another Repumplican "smoke-screen" to divert attention from their current actions?
If so, it won't work this time.
Chickens come home to roost.

Rupert Pupkin · #28 11-03-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
It was very frustrating to even get the article.
There were repeated requests. Read through the entire thread.
So now answer me, how is Clinton (six years ago) in any way relevant to current circumstances?
Is this another Repumplican "smoke-screen" to divert attention from their current actions?
If so, it won't work this time.
Chickens come home to roost.

I guess if someone dies, it shouldn't even be printed if it's not related to Iraq.

The democrats will probably do very well at the next election. Who cares? Do you think anything will actually change? There is very little difference between the democrats and republicans.

All I can say is my multi-millionaire politicians(repubs) are better than your multi-millionaire politicians(dems). LOL.

timmgirvan · #29 11-03-2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
It was very frustrating to even get the article.
There were repeated requests. Read through the entire thread.
So now answer me, how is Clinton (six years ago) in any way relevant to current circumstances?
Is this another Repumplican "smoke-screen" to divert attention from their current actions?
If so, it won't work this time.
Chickens come home to roost.

I think it was just filler fact thrown in to flesh out the story....I don't see anything germain to today,other than the guy died and here's part of his story.

Downthestretch55 · #30 11-03-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I think it was just filler fact thrown in to flesh out the story....I don't see anything germain to today,other than the guy died and here's part of his story.

Well then, I hope that the last person that throws a handfull of dirt on his coffin wishes him RIP.
A life well spent that needed a pardon.
OK with me.
I don't sit in the seat of judgement.
I also didn't start this diversionary thread.

Rupert Pupkin · #31 11-03-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Well then, I hope that the last person that throws a handfull of dirt on his coffin wishes him RIP.
A life well spent that needed a pardon.
OK with me.
I don't sit in the seat of judgement.
I also didn't start this diversionary thread.

This section of the website is titled "Off Topic General". It is not titled "The Iraq Section".

That is hilarious that you would call this thread a "diversion". Just because a thread is not about Iraq, it doesn't make the thread a "diversion".

If anything, the constant talk about Iraq is a diversion. You want everyone to focus on Iraq so that they won't focus on how good the economy is. Unempoloyment is incredibly low right now. The Dow is at an all-time high. I guess things aren't so bad.

Downthestretch55 · #32 11-03-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

This section of the website is titled "Off Topic General". It is not titled "The Iraq Section".

That is hilarious that you would call this thread a "diversion". Just because a thread is not about Iraq, it doesn't make the thread a "diversion".

If anything, the constant talk about Iraq is a diversion. You want everyone to focus on Iraq so that they won't focus on how good the economy is. Unempoloyment is incredibly low right now. The Dow is at an all-time high. I guess things aren't so bad.

Rupert,
Now I finally get it!
This thread wasn't about Braswell at all!
It was about "how good the economy is"...for the top few.
And "unemployment is incredibly low right now"...if you want to work for Walmart or McDonalds..or other minimum wage (not raised in years) job.
The Dow? Geesh. If you know anything about the market, the Dow isn't the marker. Watch for the Decemer or January crash when China starts calling in their debt.
"Things aren't so bad"???
Tell me the current deficit and which countries fund it.
Define "victory" in Iraq and a sensible exit strategy.
Also explain how the US is "winning" the war on terror while we continue to create more terrorists.
Also, I'd like to know your thoughts about Afghanistan and whether the current agricultural crop that is up 60% will help win the "war on drugs", and if the Taliban is back in control of most of the country.
Where is Osama bi Laden?

Enough questions from me. You might need to do a search on your beloved Drudge Reports, or ask the commander of the spacecraft that is trying to hitch a ride behind the comet.
Watch out for the cool aid. Rumor has it that Jim Jones mixes a nasty ****tail.
But if you want to drink up, far be it from me to stop you.

SentToStud · #33 11-03-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't know what this particular guy was in jail for but Clinton pardoned 177 people and they weren't just tax evaders. He pardoned people for all kinds of crimes including drug-dealing. The thing that is so disturbing is that the pardons were basically for sale.

How can you compare that to Iraq? There was nothing sinister about wanting to remove Saddam Hussein from office. Everybody wanted him removed. The invasion had bi-partisan support. John Kerry had advocated invading Iraq well before 9/11. In an interview on Face the Nation back in either 1999 or 2000, Kerry suggested that we may need to act unilaterally and go into Iraq and remove Hussein.

By the way, do you honestly think that if a democrat would have been elected in 2004, that the war would be going much better right now? I don't. I'm not saying that we are doing a great job but I think it's a really bad situation over there and I doubt things would be going much better no matter who was in charge.

By the way, I liked how you changed the subject. There was no way to defend Clinton's actions on these pardons, so you decided you would change the subject and bring up the war in Iraq.

interesting stuff. # of pardons/clemencies by President:

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/actions_administration.htm

in round #s:
truman 2,000
eisenhower 1,200
kennedy 600
nixon 900
ford 400 (impressive for just 29 months on the job)
carter 600
reagan 400
bush sr 75 (better have a good story. includes a few turkeys just to get the number higher)
clinton 550
gw bush 70 thru Dec, 2005 (saving them up!)

Danzig · #34 11-03-2006, 08:03 PM

i read that there was a flurry of pardons signed in the last hours of the clinton presidency. an abuse of power started by ford and his pardon of nixon!!

Rupert Pupkin · #35 11-03-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
Now I finally get it!
This thread wasn't about Braswell at all!
It was about "how good the economy is"...for the top few.
And "unemployment is incredibly low right now"...if you want to work for Walmart or McDonalds..or other minimum wage (not raised in years) job.
The Dow? Geesh. If you know anything about the market, the Dow isn't the marker. Watch for the Decemer or January crash when China starts calling in their debt.
"Things aren't so bad"???
Tell me the current deficit and which countries fund it.
Define "victory" in Iraq and a sensible exit strategy.
Also explain how the US is "winning" the war on terror while we continue to create more terrorists.
Also, I'd like to know your thoughts about Afghanistan and whether the current agricultural crop that is up 60% will help win the "war on drugs", and if the Taliban is back in control of most of the country.
Where is Osama bi Laden?

Enough questions from me. You might need to do a search on your beloved Drudge Reports, or ask the commander of the spacecraft that is trying to hitch a ride behind the comet.
Watch out for the cool aid. Rumor has it that Jim Jones mixes a nasty ****tail.
But if you want to drink up, far be it from me to stop you.

The Dow is not the only index that is way up. The S&P is up about 10% this year. The Nasdaq is up about 6%. The Nasdaq has gone up about 95% the last 4 years. That's not too bad. The most recent poll shows that 51% of Americans approve the job that President Bush is doing on the economy. I'm sure that people are negatively influenced by Iraq too. If it wasn't for Iraq, I bet that Bush' approval rating on the economy would be about 60%.

I highly doubt that the market will go way down early next year. All the guys that I follow in terms of "market-timing" are predicting the opposite. They expect the market to go way up next year.

I don't know what the answer is abot Iraq. If we leave right now, it would be a huge victory for the terrorists. They will think that we are weak and that all they have to do is battle us and we will give up. If we stay, that doesn't do us much good either if things continue to go the way they are going right now. I don't know what the answer is. We need to come up with a graceful way of exiting.

I don't know where Bin Laden is but I am not confident that a democrat would have any more success in finding him than Bush. Hopefully we will get him soon.

Even if more terrorists are being created, it does not mean that we are not winning the war on terror. If we have disrupted the major terror groups to the point that they have trouble communicating and have trouble getting money and aren't capable of launching a major terror strike, than an argument could be made that we are winning.

What are your solutions? How would you win the war on terror? You are quick to criticize our government but I haven't heard you come up with any solutions.

Downthestretch55 · #36 11-04-2006, 02:09 PM

Rupert,
Your words:
"What are your solutions? How would you win the war on terror? You are quick to criticize our government but I haven't heard you come up with any solutions."

Honestly, do you really expect me to put them up for free?
Take Haggard's "boyfriend's" fee per hour ($200) and multiply by 100.
Then we'll talk.
Good consultants aren't cheap.
PM me if you can afford it.

Rupert Pupkin · #37 11-04-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
Your words:
"What are your solutions? How would you win the war on terror? You are quick to criticize our government but I haven't heard you come up with any solutions."

Honestly, do you really expect me to put them up for free?
Take Haggard's "boyfriend's" fee per hour ($200) and multiply by 100.
Then we'll talk.
Good consultants aren't cheap.
PM me if you can afford it.

I'll pass on your offer. I'll get the solutions for free from Commondreams.

Downthestretch55 · #38 11-04-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'll pass on your offer. I'll get the solutions for free from Commondreams.

Rupert,
I really get a laugh out of the republicans that are asking others that aren't republicans for a plan..."what would you do?"
This is just too funny!
I'll just tell you, first off, admit that it was a republican administration, republican controlled congress, that brought this mess.
If they were so smart to get us into this mess, don't you think the republicans would have planned a way to get out of the mess?

What do you propose as a solution?

Downthestretch55 · #39 11-05-2006, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
I really get a laugh out of the republicans that are asking others that aren't republicans for a plan..."what would you do?"
This is just too funny!
I'll just tell you, first off, admit that it was a republican administration, republican controlled congress, that brought this mess.
If they were so smart to get us into this mess, don't you think the republicans would have planned a way to get out of the mess?

What do you propose as a solution?

Well Rupert,
It's been a while and I haven't seen your solution. My guess is that you don't have one.
I've already stated that I do, but my fees might be beyond you. If you have connections with those that really would like to use my services, pm me and I'll discuss the terms of the contract.
DTS