AQU to Inner for 3 Days

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Announced this morning that Discreet Cat is still a go, inner or outer track, they don't care.

Do you have a link for that story? I heard they won't run him if they don't like the track. I know Barclay Tagg has already said he won't run his 2yr old if he doesn't like the track.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

I am an expert on knowing they didn't take care of the turf at belmont, and blamed a lack of money for the reason, and I am an expert on knowing that rain shouldn't cause a problem with a track for days.

They will not get back to the main track by next weeks races. When Discreet Cat and Nobiz don't show up, you will look like a fool. I know you or Oracle or one of you guys used to work for NYRA. Stop defending them. In my opinion horses are dying because they are too cheap to take care of their tracks.

You are a self-professed expert on many things...most of which have proven to be inaccurate over time. You are also part of a group of posters that have only come to this site to cause trouble and further a variety of personal agendas.

The simple fact is you run your mouth, so to speak, on the internet and have established zero credibility.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Do you have a link for that story? I heard they won't run him if they don't like the track. I know Barclay Tagg has already said he won't run his 2yr old if he doesn't like the track.

You actually said Nobizlikeshowbiz isn't running. This " he may not run " garbage means nothing. Every horse entered may not run.

What trainer does run a horse, especially an extremely valuable horse, on a track " he doesn't like "? Certainly not one as exceptional as the great Barclay Tagg.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You are a self-professed expert on many things...most of which have proven to be inaccurate over time. You are also part of a group of posters that have only come to this site to cause trouble and further a variety of personal agendas.

The simple fact is you run your mouth, so to speak, on the internet and have established zero credibility.

You are a gambler. Gamblers have zero credibility. I love you guys when you are wrong you start coming up with personal things.

I have quite a few dollars invested in the business. Finally the horseman are starting to win out over the gamblers. Once NYRA is gone everyone will be happy, but most importantly the horses.

[SniperSB23]

The Remsen is a nice race but hardly so prestigious that you'd skip a million dollar race where you would be the likely favorite for it and its $200,000 purse.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You actually said Nobizlikeshowbiz isn't running. This " he may not run " garbage means nothing. Every horse entered may not run.

What trainer does run a horse, especially an extremely valuable horse, on a track " he doesn't like "? Certainly not one as exceptional as the great Barclay Tagg.

Once again, just making things up. I never said Nobiz isn't running. I am not his owner or trainer. How could I possibly know. I am not stupid enough to say such nonsense.

Here are the facts. Rain, just rain, caused Aqueduct to take off days from it's main track. Explain that.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Remsen is a nice race but hardly so prestigious that you'd skip a million dollar race where you would be the likely favorite for it and its $200,000 purse.

They don't care about money with this horse. This is a very wealthy owner that wants to get to KY in May. Tagg wants to stay in NY. His assistant is heading out to CA that weekend and I doubt he wants to go to Delta Downs.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Once again, just making things up. I never said Nobiz isn't running. I am not his owner or trainer. How could I possibly know. I am not stupid enough to say such nonsense.

Here are the facts. Rain, just rain, caused Aqueduct to take off days from it's main track. Explain that.

I'm then confused by this post...but then again I am a " gambler "...so what do I know. One thing I do know, unlike you I do have established credibility in this game as well as accountability for what I say.

Originally Posted by georgewashington

They will not get back to the main track by next weeks races. When Discreet Cat and Nobiz don't show up, you will look like a fool.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

They don't care about money with this horse. This is a very wealthy owner that wants to get to KY in May. Tagg wants to stay in NY. His assistant is heading out to CA that weekend and I doubt he wants to go to Delta Downs.

Well even 2nd place in the Delta Jackpot and their ticket to the Derby is punched. It would give them the ability to campaign him however they wanted next year without worrying about purse sizes or graded status. Seems the right move to me and I highly doubt that an extra $480,000 for winning wouldn't factor in at all.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well even 2nd place in the Delta Jackpot and their ticket to the Derby is punched. It would give them the ability to campaign him however they wanted next year without worrying about purse sizes or graded status. Seems the right move to me and I highly doubt that an extra $480,000 for winning wouldn't factor in at all.

His ticket is already punched in terms of earning thanks to the Champagne. He would only need a 2nd or 3rd in one race to get there. If he couldn't do that he wouldn't be going to the KY Derby. The Remsen would be more than enough.

Money is not an issue with this horse. The only issue is safety and getting him to Florida healthy. I think he will likely go Holy Bull, Fountain of Youth, Wood or something that that with him. He is a very big horse though and he might just go the Barbaro route. I really think Tagg will go the same route he did with Funny Cide though. I would have to look at the race schedule but a race in Louisiana or Arkansas might be in there. 99% sure though they will try to go to the Wood with him, just like FC and just like they planned for Showing Up before he has a minor injury.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

His ticket is already punched in terms of earning thanks to the Champagne. He would only need a 2nd or 3rd in one race to get there. If he couldn't do that he wouldn't be going to the KY Derby. The Remsen would be more than enough.

Money is not an issue with this horse. The only issue is safety and getting him to Florida healthy. I think he will likely go Holy Bull, Fountain of Youth, Wood or something that that with him. He is a very big horse though and he might just go the Barbaro route. I really think Tagg will go the same route he did with Funny Cide though. I would have to look at the race schedule but a race in Louisiana or Arkansas might be in there. 99% sure though they will try to go to the Wood with him, just like FC and just like they planned for Showing Up before he has a minor injury.

well, that post covers every possible route to the derby minus the west coast. that way, regardless of direction taken, you'll be RIGHT. lol how pathetic.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well, that post covers every possible route to the derby minus the west coast. that way, regardless of direction taken, you'll be RIGHT. lol how pathetic.

Actually it covers two routes.

Holy Bull-Arkansas or Louisiana-Wood

Holy Bull-Fountain of Youth-Wood.


Please show me the other routes. I wiould love to know how you read something more than that.

[SentToStud]

a most amusing thread this fine afternoon. you got your george w., who will argue anything and retire to the the comfort of the home his parents bought for his brother and his friends. then, of course, you have your 'throat.' throat will, we know, go to the point of looking up words in one or more dictionaries to argue a position.

Classic confrontation of "Who Cares" vs "Who Gives a Sh**."

sorry to interrupt. just letting you know how entertaining it's been.... good luck today.

[Danzig]

well, fc ran in new york, there's that route.
than the arkansas route.
the louisiana route.
the florida route.
showing up ran in the lexington, so there's going thru ky.

again, nothing left but west coast. you're some prognosticator.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well, fc ran in new york, there's that route.
than the arkansas route.
the louisiana route.
the florida route.
showing up ran in the lexington, so there's going thru ky.

again, nothing left but west coast. you're some prognosticator.

Do you need a lesson in reading?

My post says Showing Up was going to the wood but he got hurt.

Florida is in both the routes.
Funny Cide took the same route I pointed out. Holy Bull/Louisiana/Wood.

It is still just two routes. There is no other way to read that post.

He will go Holy Bull/Louisiana or Arkansas/Wood or Holy Bull/Fountain of Youth/Wood. A million things could change between now and then but I am pretty sure they are looking at Holy Bull-February 3 (it is 8f this year) then the Louisiana Derby-March 10, and then the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct which I believe is April 7.

This is all speculation, because who knows what will happen between now and then. But the Holy Bull is likely his first 2007 start.

[sumitas]

The winner of the Remsen becomes instant stallion prospect.