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Old 06-03-2021, 02:53 PM
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Ive said multiple times the overage had nothing to do with Medina Spirit winning the Derby.

But Shug and Motion didn’t have an overage in the Oaks last year as well. They didn’t have another overage later in the year and 2 others overages earlier in the year at Oaklawn.

Shug and Graham didn’t have an overage with Justify in the SA Derby. They didn’t have 7 horses drop dead out of the blue.

Should I keep going?
If you suggesting that the state local and federal authorities have had ample circumstantial evidence to raid his barn a la what they did at Parx last week you will get no argument from me. We differ in as much as therapeutic picogram med overages are sloppy careless etc. they should be adjudicated as such nothing more not less.
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Old 06-03-2021, 03:07 PM
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If you suggesting that the state local and federal authorities have had ample circumstantial evidence to raid his barn a la what they did at Parx last week you will get no argument from me. We differ in as much as therapeutic picogram med overages are sloppy careless etc. they should be adjudicated as such nothing more not less.
If it was an isolated incident I’d agree. It’s not. He’s a habitual offender and doesn’t care.

When you enjoy all the benefits of being “the face off the sport” then you can’t be so sloppy. You need to be held to a different standard. Maybe that isn’t fair, but that’s the way it works.
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Old 06-03-2021, 03:53 PM
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You need to be held to a different standard.
Not even a different standard. Just the standard standard. And the barn has proven incapable of it.
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Old 06-03-2021, 04:14 PM
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Not even a different standard. Just the standard standard. And the barn has proven incapable of it.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:16 PM
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Not even a different standard. Just the standard standard. And the barn has proven incapable of it.
Next time Alan Foreman is on have him explain the standard standard and how it is equally applied in jurisdictions throughout the states.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:33 PM
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Next time Alan Foreman is on have him explain the standard standard and how it is equally applied in jurisdictions throughout the states.
He's explained it plenty of times. There's rules that every outfit is familiar with in the jurisdictions in which they compete and adhere to pretty uniformly across the board.

You'd think having had a betamethasone violation months earlier in Kentucky, the barn would be familiar with the standard in KY.

There's ZERO excuse. There's ZERO defense. And I'm as big a fan of the barn and the man as there is in the media. There's no spinning it or manufacturing of a by-pass for it whether it was inadvertent with the topical or part of a therapeutic treatment with injections. It's the barn's responsibility ~ especially under the shadow of the '20 mishaps ~ to manage the care of the horse. Barns bigger than Baffert (Pletcher, Brown, Cox) and smaller (Greg Foley, Danny Velasquez) were able to do it.
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Old 06-03-2021, 06:05 PM
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He's explained it plenty of times. There's rules that every outfit is familiar with in the jurisdictions in which they compete and adhere to pretty uniformly across the board.

You'd think having had a betamethasone violation months earlier in Kentucky, the barn would be familiar with the standard in KY.

There's ZERO excuse. There's ZERO defense. And I'm as big a fan of the barn and the man as there is in the media. There's no spinning it or manufacturing of a by-pass for it whether it was inadvertent with the topical or part of a therapeutic treatment with injections. It's the barn's responsibility ~ especially under the shadow of the '20 mishaps ~ to manage the care of the horse. Barns bigger than Baffert (Pletcher, Brown, Cox) and smaller (Greg Foley, Danny Velasquez) were able to do it.
Appreciate your comments here Steve. Would like to see more of your colleagues doing the same.
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Old 06-03-2021, 10:39 PM
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He's explained it plenty of times. There's rules that every outfit is familiar with in the jurisdictions in which they compete and adhere to pretty uniformly across the board.

You'd think having had a betamethasone violation months earlier in Kentucky, the barn would be familiar with the standard in KY.

There's ZERO excuse. There's ZERO defense. And I'm as big a fan of the barn and the man as there is in the media. There's no spinning it or manufacturing of a by-pass for it whether it was inadvertent with the topical or part of a therapeutic treatment with injections. It's the barn's responsibility ~ especially under the shadow of the '20 mishaps ~ to manage the care of the horse. Barns bigger than Baffert (Pletcher, Brown, Cox) and smaller (Greg Foley, Danny Velasquez) were able to do it.
Spot on....


CDI suspends Baffert 2 years in wake of split sample result....and if the rest of the country follows suit it will be better.
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Old 06-11-2021, 01:12 PM
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Just when you thought that the horse racing industry couldn't be dragged any further down into the sewer, Baffert now finds himself in a real pissing contest as his attorney and the KHRC battle over the amount of urine that will be sent for additional testing.
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